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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And the tests turned out to be junk but they always refuse to acknowledge that part. Testing was over rated anyway because they can’t seem to decide how big a factor asymptomatic spread was. And people who were symptomatic were self quarantined anyway. Never mind that they ended up spreading to their family members when they should have spent more time outside getting vitamin D and sunlight.

    It’s like you said: you can sit here and poke holes into the Trump virus narrative all day and it’s like talking to the wall.
    Why the United States declined to use the WHO test, even temporarily as a bridge until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could produce its own test, remains a perplexing question and the key to the Trump administration’s failure to provide enough tests to identify the coronavirus infections before they could be passed on, according to POLITICO interviews with dozens of viral-disease experts, former officials and some officials within the administration’s health agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And the tests turned out to be junk but they always refuse to acknowledge that part. Testing was over rated anyway because they can’t seem to decide how big a factor asymptomatic spread was. And people who were symptomatic were self quarantined anyway. Never mind that they ended up spreading to their family members when they should have spent more time outside getting vitamin D and sunlight.

    It’s like you said: you can sit here and poke holes into the Trump virus narrative all day and it’s like talking to the wall.
    Some left wing reporter told them so they don't need facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why the United States declined to use the WHO test, even temporarily as a bridge until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could produce its own test, remains a perplexing question and the key to the Trump administration’s failure to provide enough tests to identify the coronavirus infections before they could be passed on, according to POLITICO interviews with dozens of viral-disease experts, former officials and some officials within the administration’s health agencies.
    And who's fault was it that the WHO's tests were not accepted? The CDC and the FDA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Did you see that Google help fund GOF research. Also Google was hindering searches on the origin of Corona virus.
    Sure did. So many critters swimming in the same pond.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why the United States declined to use the WHO test, even temporarily as a bridge until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could produce its own test, remains a perplexing question and the key to the Trump administration’s failure to provide enough tests to identify the coronavirus infections before they could be passed on, according to POLITICO interviews with dozens of viral-disease experts, former officials and some officials within the administration’s health agencies.
    Allow me to poke a hole in this one lol.

    What kind of window do you think exists in terms of picking up an infection prior to the onset of symptoms? Let’s be generous and call it two weeks. So, how was it possible to stop *a significant number* of infections without testing everyone every ten days?

    Because that’s what it would amount to. You can get a negative test and get infected the next day. So people would be constantly getting tested and this would create a shortage [not to mention, the logistical nightmare of testing so many people basically, constantly] of tests for people who actually should be tested—the actually symptomatic people.

    It’s all moot, anyway. Once established in the population [thank you, China] the virus was going to spread. At the very minimum, in large urban areas. The only thing mitigation would do would be nibble around the edges of the endpoint in data.

    Which is why discovering how this all started in the first place is so important. Prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Allow me to poke a hole in this one lol.

    What kind of window do you think exists in terms of picking up an infection prior to the onset of symptoms? Let’s be generous and call it two weeks. So, how was it possible to stop *a significant number* of infections without testing everyone every ten days?

    Because that’s what it would amount to. You can get a negative test and get infected the next day. So people would be constantly getting tested and this would create a shortage [not to mention, the logistical nightmare of testing so many people basically, constantly] of tests for people who actually should be tested—the actually symptomatic people.

    It’s all moot, anyway. Once established in the population [thank you, China] the virus was going to spread. At the very minimum, in large urban areas. The only thing mitigation would do would be nibble around the edges of the endpoint in data.

    Which is why discovering how this all started in the first place is so important. Prevention is worth a pound of cure.
    Agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Agree 100%
    Is that your professional opinion, Doctor???????????
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Allow me to poke a hole in this one lol.

    What kind of window do you think exists in terms of picking up an infection prior to the onset of symptoms? Let’s be generous and call it two weeks. So, how was it possible to stop *a significant number* of infections without testing everyone every ten days?

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    It’s all moot, anyway. Once established in the population [thank you, China] the virus was going to spread. At the very minimum, in large urban areas. The only thing mitigation would do would be nibble around the edges of the endpoint in data.

    Which is why discovering how this all started in the first place is so important. Prevention is worth a pound of cure.
    Why was South Korea so successful in testing, tracing and virus control? They didn’t know how it originated.

    The Trump administration blew it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why was South Korea so successful in testing, tracing and virus control? They didn’t know how it originated.

    The Trump administration blew it.
    Here we go with relatively small island nation comparisons.

    How many obese people are in South Korea? How does their immigration rate compare to ours? How many large urban areas do they have compared to ours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Here we go with relatively small island nation comparisons.

    How many obese people are in South Korea? How does their immigration rate compare to ours? How many large urban areas do they have compared to ours?
    Conservatives always compare rural TX to NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Conservatives always compare rural TX to NYC.
    My point was there are too many variables at work to make the ‘oh look, testing and mitigation’ claim. Mitigation seemed to work—except when it didn’t, for example. I can’t believe Boris Johnson is considering locking down the UK again.

    We have some really slow learners for global leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    My point was there are too many variables at work to make the ‘oh look, testing and mitigation’ claim. Mitigation seemed to work—except when it didn’t, for example. I can’t believe Boris Johnson is considering locking down the UK again.

    We have some really slow learners for global leaders.
    And my point was that there are too many variables to compare TX with NYC on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Here we go with relatively small island nation comparisons.

    How many obese people are in South Korea? How does their immigration rate compare to ours? How many large urban areas do they have compared to ours?
    They wore masks, separated and when vaccines were available, they took them. They did what we could have and the Trumpys still do not want to do.

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