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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'll speak from a San Francisco perspective since its often in the news. Many restaurant owners have been interviewed and talk about worker pay. These people generally like to make it clear they are politically progressive but then get into the economic realities of running a restaurant and all that it entails (including the cost of paying workers higher salaries).

    So either these folks are lying about being progressive and are really right-wing robber barons or maybe they shouldn't get into the restaurant business unless they are already rich/wealthy and shouldn't run it to make a profit?
    I think it's called 'Supply & Demand'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I think it's called 'Supply & Demand'.
    Supply and Demand?

    Here's an article from two years ago on why San Francisco restaurants are supposedly suffering.

    Why San Francisco Restaurants Are Suffocating

    What I witnessed during my two years in the industry

    "In today’s climate, that is a tall order — much taller than I knew at first, and one that I can now say confidently that very few independent eateries can attain. It became quickly apparent that there’s nothing a small, young business in SF can do to make the city a living option for its employees. There is no amount of money an owner can pay an employee within the economics of a small business to allow them to live within the city’s borders or even within a reasonable radius."

    https://thebolditalic.com/why-sf-res...g-795392211c66


    Maybe that's just an excuse for being a right-wing robber baron. Or if you aren't rich enough to pay your employees enough to live in the City then don't open a business. Of course people profess to want to small and local businesses here instead of national chains but many small business owners aren't millionaires, they're just regular working folks trying to support their families. So with those economic realities which do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Supply and Demand?

    Here's an article from two years ago on why San Francisco restaurants are supposedly suffering.

    Why San Francisco Restaurants Are Suffocating

    What I witnessed during my two years in the industry

    "In today’s climate, that is a tall order — much taller than I knew at first, and one that I can now say confidently that very few independent eateries can attain. It became quickly apparent that there’s nothing a small, young business in SF can do to make the city a living option for its employees. There is no amount of money an owner can pay an employee within the economics of a small business to allow them to live within the city’s borders or even within a reasonable radius."

    https://thebolditalic.com/why-sf-res...g-795392211c66


    Maybe that's just an excuse for being a right-wing robber baron. Or if you aren't rich enough to pay your employees enough to live in the City then don't open a business. Of course people profess to want to small and local businesses here instead of national chains but many small business owners aren't millionaires, they're just regular working folks trying to support their families. So with those economic realities which do you prefer?
    why are you always going on and on about SF and you're dissatisfaction with everything from Willy Brown to paying workers fair wages? why the fuck don't you just move and quit all this whining?

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    Big Box stores like Home Depot and Lowes are turning their employees into Part-Time workers, stripping them of their 40 hour work weeks and all of their company benefits. Many Grocery Store chains such as Krogers and Safeway are doing the same thing.

    SO many of their once HAPPY AND CONTENT Full-Time employees are not acceptable of the new terms of employment that were forced on them, and they are retaliating by turning in their notices and saying- "NO THANKS- I'LL SEEK EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE"!

    CAN anyone blame them?

    i SAY good luck and right on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Teaching people that work is oppression and that folks should sit home waiting for a check from the government is really really stupid.

    Buckle Up.
    Teaching?


    Dear fucking idiot


    The conditions taught these individuals these ideas


    You gonna kill people for “teaching” themselves that they can have a better more fulfilling life?



    You better buckle up hate boy


    The boot is about to stomp your racist ass into the gutter and then kick you racists back into the sewer where you belong


    Fuck you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Big Box stores like Home Depot and Lowes are turning their employees into Part-Time workers, stripping them of their 40 hour work weeks and all of their company benefits. Many Grocery Store chains such as Krogers and Safeway are doing the same thing.

    SO many of their once Full-Time employees are not acceptable of the new terms of employment that were forced on them, and they are retaliating by turning in their notices and saying- "NO THANKS- I'LL SEEK EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE"!

    CAN anyone blame them?

    i SAY good luck and right on!
    this part-time strategy has been in place for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Supply and Demand?

    Here's an article from two years ago on why San Francisco restaurants are supposedly suffering.

    Why San Francisco Restaurants Are Suffocating

    What I witnessed during my two years in the industry

    "In today’s climate, that is a tall order — much taller than I knew at first, and one that I can now say confidently that very few independent eateries can attain. It became quickly apparent that there’s nothing a small, young business in SF can do to make the city a living option for its employees. There is no amount of money an owner can pay an employee within the economics of a small business to allow them to live within the city’s borders or even within a reasonable radius."

    https://thebolditalic.com/why-sf-res...g-795392211c66


    Maybe that's just an excuse for being a right-wing robber baron. Or if you aren't rich enough to pay your employees enough to live in the City then don't open a business. Of course people profess to want to small and local businesses here instead of national chains but many small business owners aren't millionaires, they're just regular working folks trying to support their families. So with those economic realities which do you prefer?
    Are you suggesting some kind of Socialist approach where there is a Subsidy provided for Small Business?
    (maybe there are too many restaurants in an area? ... you know, supply ... and demand)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Supply and Demand?

    Here's an article from two years ago on why San Francisco restaurants are supposedly suffering.

    Why San Francisco Restaurants Are Suffocating

    What I witnessed during my two years in the industry

    "In today’s climate, that is a tall order — much taller than I knew at first, and one that I can now say confidently that very few independent eateries can attain. It became quickly apparent that there’s nothing a small, young business in SF can do to make the city a living option for its employees. There is no amount of money an owner can pay an employee within the economics of a small business to allow them to live within the city’s borders or even within a reasonable radius."

    https://thebolditalic.com/why-sf-res...g-795392211c66


    Maybe that's just an excuse for being a right-wing robber baron. Or if you aren't rich enough to pay your employees enough to live in the City then don't open a business. Of course people profess to want to small and local businesses here instead of national chains but many small business owners aren't millionaires, they're just regular working folks trying to support their families. So with those economic realities which do you prefer?
    Land prices


    What is your ideas for a solution?


    Nothing huh


    You just spew hate and dont have solutions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Are you suggesting some kind of Socialist approach where there is a Subsidy provided for Small Business?
    (maybe there are too many restaurants in an area? ... you know, supply ... and demand)
    Read again young Jedi. The argument has been that one is a right-wing robber baron if you can't pay your workers a living wage. In expensive areas of the country a living wage can be a very high number and one that doesn't pencil out for many small businesses. So if you hold that position then economic reality states those businesses likely won't exist. Ok, we can do that. What's the trade off then? A lack of diversity for starters. Your choices will be limited to a much smaller more large chain oriented establishments.

    There are always trade offs in life and it's not really different here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Retail workers quitting in droves, corporate America may soon run out of slaves

    Retail workers are quitting at record rates for higher-paying work: 'My life isn't worth a dead-end
    Source: Washington Post
    Slaves???? What a MORONIC claim snowflake. Tell me, who is forcing anyone in this country to work for less than they think they are worth? The Democratic Party of the Jackass certainly needs low IQ dunces like you to win elections.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Better Pay is an incentive.
    Better education and training is the solution. You're another dim bulb who didn't even comprehend the topic.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Selling your time to a crook is like any other way of dealing with a crook. By whatever way possible, they are best avoided! These buggers are just trying to make you live on grass so that they can make more money.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I think most of us are unsurprised that there is ultimately a cost to treating people like dirt and paying them far less than a living wage.
    ^Dipshit thinks $15 an hour is a "living" wage.

    Hey, dipshit, who is forcing anyone to work for less than they think they are worth? In the old days, the solution to low wages was training or education. Today, dipshits like you think Government can mandate what is fair. You're really too stupid for words.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    this part-time strategy has been in place for years
    TRUE, BUT USED TO BE THE EXCEPTION!

    THE EXCEPTION HAS NOW BECOME THE RULE POST Covid!

    The only jobs available now as fulltime are specialty positions and Management positions in many retail store chains now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Good, maybe we won’t need a minimum wage hike if enough workers demand more.
    How about they demand more of themselves? You know, like training for higher paying jobs with skills or getting a degree? Dunce.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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