Retail workers quitting in droves, corporate America may soon run out of slaves

**Truth Detector** · 06-22-2021, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Cypress

Rightwing robber baron capitalists in USA have long whined that raising the minimum wage will kill their businesses.

**Truth Detector** · 06-22-2021, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jack

I think it's called 'Supply & Demand'.

No, it's called Government intervention into markets that then distort the markets and cause inflationary spirals. Dunce.

**Truth Detector** · 06-22-2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo

Big Box stores like Home Depot and Lowes are turning their employees into Part-Time workers, stripping them of their 40 hour work weeks and all of their company benefits. Many Grocery Store chains such as Krogers and Safeway are doing the same thing.

SO many of their once HAPPY AND CONTENT Full-Time employees are not acceptable of the new terms of employment that were forced on them, and they are retaliating by turning in their notices and saying- "NO THANKS- I'LL SEEK EMPLOYMENT ELSEWHERE"!

CAN anyone blame them?

i SAY good luck and right on!

LINK to this bullshit? I wish we could find a link to your tiny little brain.

**Truth Detector** · 06-22-2021, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by evince

Teaching?
Dear fucking idiot
The conditions taught these individuals these ideas
You gonna kill people for “teaching” themselves that they can have a better more fulfilling life?
You better buckle up hate boy
The boot is about to stomp your racist ass into the gutter and then kick you racists back into the sewer where you belong
Fuck you very much

This ^ is your brain on lunatic. Don't be one.

**Truth Detector** · 06-22-2021, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo

TRUE, BUT USED TO BE THE EXCEPTION!

THE EXCEPTION HAS NOW BECOME THE RULE POST Covid!

The only jobs available now as fulltime are specialty positions and Management positions in many retail store chains now!

It was NEVER an exception in those business models you dipshit. Be less of an idiot.

**reagansghost** · 06-22-2021, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

Read again young Jedi. The argument has been that one is a right-wing robber baron if you can't pay your workers a living wage. In expensive areas of the country a living wage can be a very high number and one that doesn't pencil out for many small businesses. So if you hold that position then economic reality states those businesses likely won't exist. Ok, we can do that. What's the trade off then? A lack of diversity for starters. Your choices will be limited to a much smaller more large chain oriented establishments.

There are always trade offs in life and it's not really different here.

If a business cannot pay its employees a living wage they should not be in business

and if they weren't in business, other businesses with a better business model that includes decent pay for workers would exist

**Jack** · 06-22-2021, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

Read again young Jedi. The argument has been that one is a right-wing robber baron if you can't pay your workers a living wage. In expensive areas of the country a living wage can be a very high number and one that doesn't pencil out for many small businesses. So if you hold that position then economic reality states those businesses likely won't exist. Ok, we can do that. What's the trade off then? A lack of diversity for starters. Your choices will be limited to a much smaller more large chain oriented establishments.

There are always trade offs in life and it's not really different here.

I don't think the 'Argument' has any thing to do with 'Robber Barons'. It's an 'economic decision'. Is there enough 'Traffic' to open up another Restaurant?
You open up a Restaurant in Vallejo, it costs less to operate. You open up a Restaurant next to Coit Tower, it's going to cost more.

**cancel2 2022** · 06-22-2021, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Jack

I remember when I could buy a pound of bacon for under a dollar.

Ask Guano about pork gobbling he's the expert!

**Jack** · 06-22-2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Primavera

Ask Guano about pork gobbling he's the expert!

You banned me from a Thread! I shouldn't even be talking to you!!!

**reagansghost** · 06-22-2021, 09:17 AM

that old 'higher wages will shutter small businesses' is just more GOP/Corporate bull

The Fed Proves Raising the Minimum Wage Doesn’t Kill Jobs

The myth that raising the minimum wage kills jobs has proven to be wrong, again. A new report from the US Federal Reserve found that there is no link between raising the minimum wage and job loss.

The report compared low-wage leisure and hospitality workers in an area spanning the border of New York (which had raised its minimum wage) and Pennsylvania (which had not). The areas in each state were, by economic standards, virtually identical aside from the minimum wage hike.

The report found that wages for those workers in New York increased at more than twice the rate of their counterparts in Pennsylvania. Since New York started raising wages in 2013 from $7.25 to $15, New York hospitality workers earned 33% more. Even more importantly, it found that New York not only did not lose jobs as a result of the minimum wage increase, it actually gained jobs in the sector at a faster rate than Pennsylvania.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise. After all, we have significant evidence from other states and cities that show this type of result is what we should expect from minimum wage hikes.

https://patrioticmillionaires.org/20...snt-kill-jobs/

**cawacko** · 06-22-2021, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Jack

I don't think the 'Argument' has any thing to do with 'Robber Barons'. It's an 'economic decision'. Is there enough 'Traffic' to open up another Restaurant?
You open up a Restaurant in Vallejo, it costs less to operate. You open up a Restaurant next to Coit Tower, it's going to cost more.

Ok, go to Vallejo where a home costs $900K. Not a whole lot different. What's a living wage when housing is that price point? $40 - $50/hr? What do you think that's going to do to costs at restaurants or other small businesses?

In a free market supply and demand will dictate wages. If there is a demand for workers then wages will increase. And businesses that can't survive will go under. But that's different than an artificial floor on wages. I've laid out what can come with that.

**reagansghost** · 06-22-2021, 09:31 AM

Given the sweeping societal impact a higher minimum wage would have on the lives of the poorest Americans, von Wachter said policymakers should deem this potential an acceptable risk. “We accept these small efficiency costs because we think it's valuable to provide that redistribution. We accept a trade-off between costs and benefits,” he said, adding that most of the studies have yielded no evidence of higher minimum wages triggering job losses.

Some research has even found the opposite — that is, a higher minimum wage can increase employment in some situations. When studying employment practices of big chain stores, von Wachter found that raising the minimum wage had the most positive effect in labor markets dominated by just a few large employers.

Other data suggests that higher pay improves worker satisfaction and leads to lower turnover, which can help mitigate employers’ higher payroll costs. According to Glassdoor, a 10 percent increase in base pay is associated with a 1.5-percentage-point increase in the likelihood that workers will remain with their current employer, which can translate to significant cost savings for companies. Replacing a low-wage worker costs about 16 percent of that worker’s annual salary.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/eco...onomy-n1244586

**Jack** · 06-22-2021, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

Ok, go to Vallejo where a home costs $900K. Not a whole lot different. What's a living wage when housing is that price point? $40 - $50/hr? What do you think that's going to do to costs at restaurants or other small businesses?

In a free market supply and demand will dictate wages. If there is a demand for workers then wages will increase. And businesses that can't survive will go under. But that's different than an artificial floor on wages. I've laid out what can come with that.

"In a free market supply and demand will dictate wages. If there is a demand for workers then wages will increase. And businesses that can't survive will go under."
I agree with your Statement.

**anonymoose** · 06-22-2021, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

economic realities

You lost most of the leftists here.

**reagansghost** · 06-22-2021, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

Ok, go to Vallejo where a home costs $900K. Not a whole lot different. What's a living wage when housing is that price point? $40 - $50/hr? What do you think that's going to do to costs at restaurants or other small businesses?

no one is saying all workers should be able to buy $900,000 houses moron