What is philosophy? Philosophy is an applied science.

[goat]

Philosophy is not mostly ethics. It includes metaphysics, epistemology, and aesthetics. And more.

Agreed but the only metaphysics that holds up to science testing is precognition. Paranormal is beyond the scope of scientific understanding.

[BidenPresident]

Agreed but the only metaphysics that holds up to science testing is precognition. Paranormal is beyond the scope of scientific understanding.

You'll have to explain. What does metaphysics have to do with "precognition?"

[goat]

Science is a relatively modern term which did not exist for the vast majority of written history.

What we call science today, was called natural philosophy prior to the mid 19th century.

Isaac Newton would have considered himself a natural philosopher. He would not even have recognized the word scientist.

Plato's Socrates said philosophy is the only true science. This was made in comparison to architecture, engineering, and art.

[goat]

You'll have to explain. What does metaphysics have to do with "precognition?"

Science tested metaphysics and precognition is the only field that held up to the scrutiny of science.

[BidenPresident]

Science tested metaphysics and precognition is the only field that held up to the scrutiny of science.

Metaphysics is part of philosophy. It has nothing to do with precognition.

[Cypress]

Plato's Socrates said philosophy is the only true science. This was made in comparison to architecture, engineering, and art.

That is obviously a bad English translation of the archaic Greek. Neither the Greeks nor anyone else had a word for science prior to the modern era.

I cannot read archaic Greek to know what Plato intended in the original language, but the pre-Socratic philosophers were doing a kind of natural philosophy, akin to what we would call science today. Aristotle was doing natural philosophy too.

[goat]

Metaphysics is part of philosophy. It has nothing to do with precognition.

Proving that philosophy is not an applied science.

[BidenPresident]

That is obviously a bad English translation of the archaic Greek. Neither the Greeks nor anyone else had a word for science prior to the modern era.

I cannot read archaic Greek to know what Plato intended in the original language, but the pre-Socratic philosophers were doing a kind of natural philosophy, akin to what we would call science today. Aristotle was doing natural philosophy too.

I don't remember where Plato talked about science, but the Greek would be episteme. Modern Germans sometimes use the word for science.

[BidenPresident]

Proving that philosophy is not an applied science.

I think you are confusing metaphysics with stuff like ESP and crystals.

[BidenPresident]

That is obviously a bad English translation of the archaic Greek. Neither the Greeks nor anyone else had a word for science prior to the modern era.

I cannot read archaic Greek to know what Plato intended in the original language, but the pre-Socratic philosophers were doing a kind of natural philosophy, akin to what we would call science today. Aristotle was doing natural philosophy too.

Plato wrote in Attic Greek, not Archaic Greek.

[BidenPresident]

Proving that philosophy is not an applied science.

Philosophy is not physical science.

[Cypress]

I don't remember where Plato talked about science, but the Greek would be episteme. Modern Germans sometimes use the word for science.

I think the Greek root epistme is most accurately translated as "knowlege". I would have to check on it.

Philosophy itself directly comes from the Greek word philosophia, which simply means love of wisdom.

[BidenPresident]

I think the Greek root epistme is most accurately translated as "knowlege".

Right, episteme is translated as knowledge.

[goat]

That is obviously a bad English translation of the archaic Greek. Neither the Greeks nor anyone else had a word for science prior to the modern era.

I cannot read archaic Greek to know what Plato intended in the original language, but the pre-Socratic philosophers were doing a kind of natural philosophy, akin to what we would call science today. Aristotle was doing natural philosophy too.

The translation of Plato used the words 'true science'. Plato's disdain for architecture and engineering gave me a negative view of Plato until I got to The Apology. Confronting human nature is an art in itself. Betrayal became the utmost of sins with an honest look at human behavior. A dialogue written some 2400 years ago.

[BidenPresident]

The translation of Plato used the words 'true science'. Plato's disdain for architecture and engineering gave me a negative view of Plato until I got to The Apology. Confronting human nature is an art in itself. Betrayal became the utmost of sins with an honest look at human behavior. A dialogue written some 2400 years ago.

Where did Plato talk about "true science?"