Are you sure white supremacists are the problem?

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
1. Well, if that is NOT the point of the OP and your subsequent blathering, the WTF are you going on about? I never denied a black crime rate...the OP subject title suggests that white supremacists are not the problem for black folk. I at length described how that is sheer foolishness, and to date you and others are all over the place trying to directly & indirectly say otherwise.

2. the SPLC has a running documentation of violent crimes by white supremacists that don't hit the MSM, but are more local in reporting. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject before making blanket statements that don't stand up to scrutiny.

3. No, but you also don't have to try and play some comparative numbers game to tell black people that systemic white racism in America is not a big threat.

4. Only a complete MAGA moron would and alt right flunky would categorize the FBI pursuing people who violate the Constitution and are part of organized groups committing crimes as "chasing it's tale. Thanks for letting the reader know exactly what you're about.

SPLC is garbage

http://hillsdalecollegian.com/2020/0...king-hate-pay/
One problem O’Neil found in the list was how inflated the number of hate groups is. In two memorable examples, O’Neil found that the SPLC listed an antiques shop and an individual with a website as hate groups. O’Neil’s presentation of these errors undermines the credibility of the list.

A more serious problem with the list is its bias against conservatives. O’Neil describes an instance where Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson was labeled an “extremist” by the SPLC for his stance on gay marriage. The SPLC later retracted the categorization and apologized.

I know of the book and subsequent other investigations. the reported violent crimes are all documented with local law enforcement agencies. Of those one can double check on their own.

But if that does not suit you, you can look at the ACLU https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s...expanding-fbis

Or the Anti Defamation League https://www.adl.org/education-and-re...e/adl-heat-map

[PostmodernProphet]

Why do so much of the impoverished areas have mostly black residents?

because all the impoverished areas of mostly black residents are run by demmycrats....

[PostmodernProphet]

I can't see black on black violence in Chicago......because WHITE PEOPLE!

a common problem here......

[dukkha]

I know of the book and subsequent other investigations. the reported violent crimes are all documented with local law enforcement agencies. Of those one can double check on their own.

But if that does not suit you, you can look at the ACLU https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s...expanding-fbis

Or the Anti Defamation League https://www.adl.org/education-and-re...e/adl-heat-map

i take your word, i have limited time an interest because i look at the threat to black lives
in terms of scale.
Because scale determines how much government resources should be assigned to any issue.

ANTIFA and BLM riots did much more damage to the country, and some simple police reform could
really change that culture.
But there is a yuge crime wave killing minorities right now and that is ignored by press
and never mentioned by politicians or political action groups like BLM

go ahead and get the WS criminals, but there is a deep search of anyone deemed "WS" by the agencies
and they have Merrick Garland CYA by elevating WS to top priority resources.

Like i said. a matter of scale

[Darth Omar]

Under 70 people were killed. More people than that are killed by lightening each year.

I was more fearful of lightening than white supremacy even before I read that.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

sorry, but you'll have to clarify.....I seem to have come to the same total as the numbers provided......which 4000 murders have I left out......

Not all homicides result in someone being arrested. Attempting to use partial data to represent the whole is garbage in garbage out. It would be like claiming that the fact that Trump only got 34% of the vote in California shows he only got 34% of the vote nationwide.

[PostmodernProphet]

Not all homicides result in someone being arrested. Attempting to use partial data to represent the whole is garbage in garbage out. It would be like claiming that the fact that Trump only got 34% of the vote in California shows he only got 34% of the vote nationwide.

and do you have evidence that the data I used from the quote is incomplete?....and even if it is, I believe it is unquestionable that the greatest percentage of the 11K murders in that quote are caused by lib'ruls......I'm just saying, rather than pin blame on one race versus another we should look to the root cause of murder.......lib'rulism......

[Poor Richard Saunders]

and do you have evidence that the data I used from the quote is incomplete?....and even if it is, I believe it is unquestionable that the greatest percentage of the 11K murders in that quote are caused by lib'ruls......I'm just saying, rather than pin blame on one race versus another we should look to the root cause of murder.......lib'rulism......

Do you not know how to look up homicide data? It can be found here - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...anded-homicide

What you believe is not a scientific fact. It isn't even a credible theory since it is a conclusion made without data. What you believe is utter nonsense since it implies that murders are the result of politics. If you want look at the actual data of homicides committed in the furtherance of a political agenda the FBI has that data too.

[AProudLefty]

I was more fearful of lightening than white supremacy even before I read that.

"I am not afraid of them so let's ignore the problem."

[BartenderElite]

I was more fearful of lightening than white supremacy even before I read that.

But the 3 incidents you cited that happened under 8 years of Obama represented a massive problem that only Trump could solve?

[Darth Omar]

But the 3 incidents you cited that happened under 8 years of Obama represented a massive problem that only Trump could solve?

Just that he apparently did.

I don’t see where white supremacy is a ‘massive problem’ just because it’s the democrat narrative. Lots of minorities in urban areas would agree with me.

[AProudLefty]

Trump must be God.

[Damocles]

Maybe this couple deserve statues.

your problem is conflating "the" with "a"... White Supremacists are "A" problem, not "THE" problem. If we had only one problem it would be easy to fix and still maintain our rights.

[Damocles]

stop using twitter links...........they don't translate here

Um... they do. This is an issue for you, not for everybody. I wonder why they don't translate for you? I see the OP fine, with the twitter post embedded.

[Darth Omar]

your problem is conflating "the" with "a"... White Supremacists are "A" problem, not "THE" problem. If we had only one problem it would be easy to fix and still maintain our rights.

Right lol?

White supremacy is A problem. Black supremacy is A problem. Cancel culture is A problem. Information suppression by the Big Tech is A problem. Etc.