Hello Flash,
I do not propose nor endorse telling white people they are racists as a basis for discussion. That comes from the right wing propaganda machine. The purpose of this RWPM interpretation is to derail any meaningful discussions before they can even get off the ground.
A big problem on the right is that they don't listen to the left. They always listen to some slanted analysis of the left's positions.
If you want to know what somebody on the left thinks, it is advisable to actually give a listen to that particular person.
But the right rarely does that. Instead, they listen to Fox or some other right-slanted talking head telling them what the left said, or presenting cherry-picked snippets of someone on the left, followed by the RWPM interpretation.
Because the right rarely even listens to the left, America stays divided.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Cypress (06-21-2021)
cancel2 2022 (06-21-2021)
https://liberationschool.org/pedagog...mass-movement/
https://daily.jstor.org/paulo-freire...ssed-at-fifty/The book that made these insights famous, Pedagogy of the Oppressed, was published in Portuguese in 1968, and in English in 1970, fifty years ago. For a book infused with Hegel from cover to cover, and peppered with footnotes invoking Frantz Fanon, Erich Fromm, Karl Marx, and Chairman Mao, it has been surprisingly popular and enduring. More than a million copies have been sold worldwide since the 1970 English translation.
https://booksie.com/515435-revolutio...marx-to-freire
Clearly Freire was a Communist as he was using Marxist and Hegelian (along with some Mao tossed in) dogma as the basis for his Critical Pedagogy theories. Communists in Western nations have picked up from where Freire left off and expanded this pedagogy to all parts of education.
I wouldn't teach race at all. Instead, I'd seek to ignore race as much as possible treating every student equally. You can make lessons relatable without using race as the basis. CRT uses racism to teach students to be race conscious. That is, it teaches students to be racist because they make race a central part of their thinking. If students didn't give a shit about race, race wouldn't matter and the problem of racism would diminish.
And there you have it.
Coming up with new inventive ways to make things racist perpetuates it when it doesn’t really exist.
E.g., healthy diet, racist birds, mathematics, the English language, systemic racism despite AA in place since at least the 70’s. The left will always come up with something creative to make anything racist to keep it going.
cancel2 2022 (06-21-2021)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Hello T. A. Gardner,
Not enough. Just because communists found out that he quotes Mao in a book that makes him a communist? Did he SAY he was a communist? Did he join a communist party? Did he fight for communism? Did he write that capitalism should be replaced with communism?
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Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
What "argument" are you referring to? My point was simply that we have talked about all this stuff forever. That is not a bad thing, but illustrates that the "we need to have a conversation" proposal has not solved anything and cannot possibly include anything not previously discussed--JPP is a great example. We just keep repeating the same points.
cawacko (06-21-2021)
It also comes from the practices of those seeking to teach these programs--college classes, consultants offering in-service training to employees, college orientation programs.
CRT does exactly that---it starts with the premise that white people are racist. There are plenty of people of all races who are prejudiced and discriminate, but there are better methods to improve society than telling people they are the cause of all the problems.
Nobody who teaches CRT is going to investigate its tenets and conclude they are not valid and nobody who wants CRT taught want them to conclude that.
cancel2 2022 (06-21-2021)
This is random but I go back to my Pastor saying we need to dismantle white supremacy. It made me think of goal setting. At work it might I want to achieve a certain title, or a certain productional level or on a team it's we want to reach a certain number of wins. It's something tangible. But there's a lot of abstractness when it comes to defining or determining how we would go about dismantling white supremacy. What all does it entail and what metrics would we use to judge progress?
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