Texas: Need ID To Vote, No ID to Carry Gun in Public

[redfish]

typical republican bullshit- they believe without photo id's people, mostly illegals, will just show up at voting sites and start voting, no check of if they are registered voters, where they live, what their name is, no check to see if they have already voted, and there are more than 10 people crazy enough to risk possible jail time to vote if they are not even registered!! and stopping those 10 people from voting is worth all the bullshit hassle.

but having an ID to buy a gun, or lots of guns, and lots of ammo, and walk around in public is just not very important- what is the worst that could happen?

Texas "constitutional carry" signed into law, goes into effect ...https://www.texastribune.org › 2021/06/16 › texas-cons...
4 days ago — Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott signs permitless carry bill into law ... to carry handguns if they're not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun.

nothing in the Texas statutes says that you don't need an ID to carry a gun. You need an ID to do anything today. A carry permit is different from an ID, In texas you don't need a permit to carry, and YES, you need an ID to vote. Its not even close to the same thing.

[ThatOwlWoman]

typical republican bullshit- they believe without photo id's people, mostly illegals, will just show up at voting sites and start voting, no check of if they are registered voters, where they live, what their name is, no check to see if they have already voted, and there are more than 10 people crazy enough to risk possible jail time to vote if they are not even registered!! and stopping those 10 people from voting is worth all the bullshit hassle.

but having an ID to buy a gun, or lots of guns, and lots of ammo, and walk around in public is just not very important- what is the worst that could happen?

Texas "constitutional carry" signed into law, goes into effect ...https://www.texastribune.org › 2021/06/16 › texas-cons...
4 days ago — Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott signs permitless carry bill into law ... to carry handguns if they're not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun.

Isn't that ironic?

Texas needs to grow up and quit pretending they're a frontier in 1850.

[Hoosier Daddy]

nothing in the Texas statutes says that you don't need an ID to carry a gun. You need an ID to do anything today. A carry permit is different from an ID, In texas you don't need a permit to carry, and YES, you need an ID to vote. Its not even close to the same thing.

we voted without photo id for a hundred years, brainiac. show me where the constitution says you have to show your drivers license to vote. you really can't go nuts and kill about 20 people in 30 seconds if you do not have a photo id to vote, but you can kill that many that quickly with a fucking assault weapon in public. see the difference?

[Hoosier Daddy]

Isn't that ironic?

Texas needs to grow up and quit pretending they're a frontier in 1850.

repubs who identify themselves as males have to at least pretend to be slobbering gun nuts in order to keep getting elected in this backward ass state.

[Lionfish]

if you are that hard up, just come knock on the door and I will give you a 20. must suck to be you.

Thanks but just send it to the Trump 2024 campaign fund.

[ThatOwlWoman]

we voted without photo id for a hundred years, brainiac. show me where the constitution says you have to show your drivers license to vote. you really can't go nuts and kill about 20 people in 30 seconds if you do not have a photo id to vote, but you can kill that many that quickly with a fucking assault weapon in public. see the difference?

Here's something to ponder. The Constitution says we have the right to vote. Period. It leaves it up to the states to administer elections. You're right; it says nothing about having to produce whatever documents a repressive state decides you must have. So the fascist states gleefully write law to make voting as onerous as possible, hoping to keep in power.

The Constitution also says that a "well-regulated militia" is necessary to ensure "security," and says that right shall not be "infringed." It doesn't say whether or not gun ownership can be regulated. Gunhumpers use this text to justify their insistence on NO GUN REGULATIONS whatsoever.

So why is regulating one (voting) okay but not the other (gun ownership)? If gun ownership cannot be regulated, doesn't that mean that voting shouldn't be, either?

[redfish]

we voted without photo id for a hundred years, brainiac. show me where the constitution says you have to show your drivers license to vote. you really can't go nuts and kill about 20 people in 30 seconds if you do not have a photo id to vote, but you can kill that many that quickly with a fucking assault weapon in public. see the difference?

you have to prove your identity in order to REGISTER to vote (to get your name on the voter rolls). That has always been a requirement in all states. What exactly is wrong with showing that same proof of identity when you actually cast your vote? We all know the answer: its easier to cheat if voters are not required to prove wo they are.

As to mass shootings, how many have been carried out by concealed permit holders? answer: zero. How many have been carried out by left wing america-hating idiots? answer: virtually all of them. You want to eliminate mass shootings? Enforce the background check laws that are already on the books, and institutionalize people with mental issues instead of feeling sorry for them and letting them roam the streets.

[evince]

typical republican bullshit- they believe without photo id's people, mostly illegals, will just show up at voting sites and start voting, no check of if they are registered voters, where they live, what their name is, no check to see if they have already voted, and there are more than 10 people crazy enough to risk possible jail time to vote if they are not even registered!! and stopping those 10 people from voting is worth all the bullshit hassle.

but having an ID to buy a gun, or lots of guns, and lots of ammo, and walk around in public is just not very important- what is the worst that could happen?

Texas "constitutional carry" signed into law, goes into effect ...https://www.texastribune.org › 2021/06/16 › texas-cons...
4 days ago — Texans can carry handguns without a license or training starting Sept. 1, after Gov. Greg Abbott signs permitless carry bill into law ... to carry handguns if they're not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun.

He wants a race war



That is what the Republican Party that now exists wants


They think that is how they save their “heritage”



They want blood all over the streets


They want a nation wide repeat of Greenwood Oklahoma

The Republican Party hates democracy and non White people



It is a racist,political and violent cult

[evince]

nothing in the Texas statutes says that you don't need an ID to carry a gun. You need an ID to do anything today. A carry permit is different from an ID, In texas you don't need a permit to carry, and YES, you need an ID to vote. Its not even close to the same thing.

In your mind



Because you are in on the violent racists political cult that is now the Republican party

[redfish]

Here's something to ponder. The Constitution says we have the right to vote. Period. It leaves it up to the states to administer elections. You're right; it says nothing about having to produce whatever documents a repressive state decides you must have. So the fascist states gleefully write law to make voting as onerous as possible, hoping to keep in power.

The Constitution also says that a "well-regulated militia" is necessary to ensure "security," and says that right shall not be "infringed." It doesn't say whether or not gun ownership can be regulated. Gunhumpers use this text to justify their insistence on NO GUN REGULATIONS whatsoever.

So why is regulating one (voting) okay but not the other (gun ownership)? If gun ownership cannot be regulated, doesn't that mean that voting shouldn't be, either?

you are either very naive, very uneducated, or totally indoctrinated with socialist bullshit. We have always had to prove identity to get on the voter rolls (register to vote) that is nothing new. Some states do it when you get a drivers license. Do you have to show proof of identity to get a drivers license?

gun ownership is regulated in every state today. in order to buy a gun you have to pass a background check, no one can own a machine gun, or a bazooka, or a tank. We have plenty of gun regulations already. The way to stop mass shootings is to enforce the laws we already have and keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

same question for you: how many mass shootings have been done by concealed permit holders?

[redfish]

In your mind



Because you are in on the violent racists political cult that is now the Republican party

NO, in reality. So the republican party is racist? are the following racists: Ben Carson, Tim Scott, Candace Owens, Burgess Meredith, Leo Terrell, Alveda King?

[Lionfish]

[redfish]

He wants a race war



That is what the Republican Party that now exists wants


They think that is how they save their “heritage”



They want blood all over the streets


They want a nation wide repeat of Greenwood Oklahoma

The Republican Party hates democracy and non White people



It is a racist,political and violent cult

as usual, you have it completely backwards. The racist party is the dem party, it has always been so. Which party was made up of KKK members? which party fillibustered the civil rights act? which party is trying to use race in every discussion? Obama was the most racist president in our history, Trump was the least racist. Bush had more minorities in his administration than Obama. Stop making excuses for your racist party and try to see reality.

[T. A. Gardner]

so you lied when you said this-

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner
Purchasing a firearm would still require identification. Purchasing ammunition might in Texas, it isn't required in Arizona though.

No, you turned what I said into a well poisoning in the form of an ad hominem. The vast majority of purchases of firearms in Texas would still require ID even if those that were private purchases, a small fraction of the whole, didn't. That you want to nitpick my statement doesn't change that it is broadly correct even if there are exceptions.

[T. A. Gardner]

we voted without photo id for a hundred years, brainiac. show me where the constitution says you have to show your drivers license to vote. you really can't go nuts and kill about 20 people in 30 seconds if you do not have a photo id to vote, but you can kill that many that quickly with a fucking assault weapon in public. see the difference?

A clusterfuck of logical fallacies starting with an irrelevant appeal to tradition ending with an ad hominem, then using a completely irrelevant, almost insane example that is a whole raft of logical fallacies... To wit: The constitution leaves it up to the states to decide how they will run their elections, so your argument about it having to say you need to show a "drivers (sic) license" is irrelevant not only on that ground, but where states require voter ID, that isn't the only ID accepted.

The you end with an utterly absurd proposition that conflates many disparate causes into a failure of reasoning thus: Your possession of photo ID has no relevance to whether you can "go nuts and kill about 20 people in 30 seconds. You can do that regardless of whether you have ID or not. You could do that with an "assault weapon" or with a bomb, or vehicular homicide, or in a number of other ways. So your attempt at an example is just totally messed up.