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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Wow! You think if we go to war with China it’s going to be a WWI trench war style battle where we lose tens of millions of people? Da fuq?!

    And you better watch yourself on that racial shit homeboy. If you think all immigrants all minorities then you just said we need more to go fight (and die) against China. So a white personal wants minorities to fight his war to keep white supremacy (the U.S.) alive.

    I’ve already stated in this thread I support more immigration. Fvxk you for even attempting to play the race shit. Fvxking idiot
    She is a fucking idiot, no doubt about it!

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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I put a lot of the blame on the Catholic Church and their stand on Family Planning. You end up with a lot of people ... but not enough jobs to support the population.
    The elimination of jobs would occur anyway because of the pressures of capitalism to reduce labor cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    I don't see that we have any choice in the matter.

    We are all leaving our grandchildren the overcrowded dystopia because we are unable to convince enough people that world over-population is a problem.

    Religion stands in the way of sense.
    'We' may not be able to control the World, ... but we can control what happens in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello AProudLefty,



    The author makes a good argument.

    What do you see as a problem with this idea?

    One thing we do know is that the rich and powerful want us to think this is a bad idea.
    I see a big problem. People coming in that do not share our values as Americans. People who do not share our history. My High School history teacher talked about our country being taken over and ultimately changed, not by war but without a shot being fired. Open borders and allowing anyone and everyone citizenship is exactly what he was talking about. I believe that’s what was being addressed “100 years ago” (quoting the OP) when the change was made. I prefer to keep it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    The elimination of jobs would occur anyway because of the pressures of capitalism to reduce labor cost.
    We are talking two different things.

    One. You are right about Capitalism 'wanting to reduce Labor costs'. That's why manufacturing went to Asia. That's why 'Automation' is replacing 'Humans'. That's why importing Third World Labor (technically this is called the 'Saudi/PoliTalker Plan') is used to replace the American Worker.

    Two. Religious Quacks promote 'MORE PEOPLE' not really caring about 'Quality of Life'. Religious Quacks, whether Christian, Jews, or Muslims, are in a Race to 'out produce' everyone else. They don't really give a shit about the Planet, ... they are all going to Paradise in the End. This 'We Are The Chosen' mentality, along with the 'Eternal Paradise', gives then this 'Fuck Everybody Else' attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello cawacko,

    It's simple. If America is deeply divided, then America will not unite against the rich and powerful.
    That is not going to happen. Americans like the rich and powerful paying all the income taxes for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,

    The elimination of jobs would occur anyway because of the pressures of capitalism to reduce labor cost.
    "The combination of the three demographic factors described above—fertility, immigration, and mortality—determines CBO’s projections of total population growth. Over the course of the next decade, immigration accounts for about 60 percent of the overall increase in the size of the population, and the net contributions of fertility and mortality account for the other 40 percent. With fertility rates expected to remain below the replacement rate, immigration will become an increasingly important part of overall population growth in the United States. In CBO’s projections, deaths exceed births by 2044, indicating that without immigration, the population would decline. Thereafter, population growth is driven entirely by immigration" [CBO]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is not going to happen. Americans like the rich and powerful paying all the income taxes for them.
    Interesting position as well to say I want open borders for large numbers of immigrants to come here while basically telling them not to become successful or we’ll unite against you.

    And what does unite against the rich mean? I have some rich friends. Are they my enemy and I should despise them because they’ve had more economic success than me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Interesting position as well to say I want open borders for large numbers of immigrants to come here while basically telling them not to become successful or we’ll unite against you.

    And what does unite against the rich mean? I have some rich friends. Are they my enemy and I should despise them because they’ve had more economic success than me?
    Marxist class warfare stuff. Uniting against any group is destructive to the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    "The combination of the three demographic factors described above—fertility, immigration, and mortality—determines CBO’s projections of total population growth. Over the course of the next decade, immigration accounts for about 60 percent of the overall increase in the size of the population, and the net contributions of fertility and mortality account for the other 40 percent. With fertility rates expected to remain below the replacement rate, immigration will become an increasingly important part of overall population growth in the United States. In CBO’s projections, deaths exceed births by 2044, indicating that without immigration, the population would decline. Thereafter, population growth is driven entirely by immigration" [CBO]
    --->"In CBO’s projections, deaths exceed births by 2044, indicating that without immigration, the population would decline."

    This is the desired outcome. This is why we need to hang out the 'No Vacancy' sign.

    'Automation, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence' is the Future ... NOT importing 'a million Basket Weavers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    --->"In CBO’s projections, deaths exceed births by 2044, indicating that without immigration, the population would decline."

    This is the desired outcome. This is why we need to hang out the 'No Vacancy' sign.

    'Automation, Robotics, Artificial Intelligence' is the Future ... NOT importing 'a million Basket Weavers'.

    CBO also projects a slowdown in GDP growth due to a a decreased growth in the labor force from lower population growth and a doubling of the over 65 population which causes a large increase in entitlement spending (Social Security and Medicare).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Marxist class warfare stuff. Uniting against any group is destructive to the nation.
    That’s a good call there. Isn’t America known as the land of opportunity where people from all over the globe come to pursue their wildest dreams? Imagine telling kids “I wanted you to become educated but not successful”.

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    i love the "immigration" rates.
    do they count in the 2.5 million projected this year alone flood of mostly unskilled migrants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I see a big problem. People coming in that do not share our values as Americans. People who do not share our history. My High School history teacher talked about our country being taken over and ultimately changed, not by war but without a shot being fired. Open borders and allowing anyone and everyone citizenship is exactly what he was talking about. I believe that’s what was being addressed “100 years ago” (quoting the OP) when the change was made. I prefer to keep it that way.
    well im glad to see SOMETHING got you riled up, and you are exactly correct in your analysis,
    as is the "not a shot" by the teacher

    To use the left's term now you are "aware" - so what are you going to do about it besides post here?

    do you support the wall ?
    ( in combination with Trumps' REMAIN in Mexico that kept asylum claims
    from spilling over the border into the USA)

    Even bigger is this isnt just gross incompetence - obviously Harris/Biden want open borders
    These people are craven selling out the country for temporal political power. give them no quarter

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post

    Exploring the economic argument for a return to open US borders


    Bryan Caplan: "This is actually the longstanding U.S. policy of open borders, which we had until 1921. So, until 100 years ago, this was our system. So, I don't think it's at all crazy to think about going back to that system."
    That's not true, actually. There were numerous restrictions on immigration up until 1965. After 1965, restrictions still existed, but they were different in orientation but less numerous overall.

    One of the major restrictions on immigration involved the Chinese Exclusion Act. As the name suggests, it heavily restricted immigration from China.

    Immigration is more open now than it has been since the late 1800s.

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