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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And the entire Republican Party fits that definition
    That's certainly painting with a broad brush.

    Especially when it's Democrats that started The Civil War, Founded the Ku Klux Klan, and opposed desegregation and the Civil Rights Act.

    https://www.history.com/topics/recon...n/ku-klux-klan

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Then prove you are not a racist
    I don't differentiate people based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up.

    You don’t have evidence of that
    You have no evidence to the contrary.

    He did have verifiable evidence of his innocence
    The absence of evidence is what proved his innocence. Same thing in your demand above. There is no evidence that I'm racist, therefore I am not racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    So everyone's a racist unless they can prove they aren't?




    Prove that


    You full well know African Americans and non racists are insulted by that flag you proudly display



    So we know you are a racist


    Then you spend your whole day ignoring racism and defending them here



    You are a racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    That's certainly painting with a broad brush.

    Especially when it's Democrats that started The Civil War, Founded the Ku Klux Klan, and opposed the Civil Rights Act.
    You broadly embrace racism as a party

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I don't differentiate people based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up.



    You have no evidence to the contrary.



    The absence of evidence is what proved his innocence. Same thing in your demand above. There is no evidence that I'm racist, therefore I am not racist.
    Your post here always defends racists


    You just claiming you are not racist amounts to the shoplifter being caught with stolen ho hoes down their pants saying


    “ how did those get there I didn’t steal them”

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    And the entire Republican Party fits that definition
    A logical fallacy, to whit an ad hominem based on guilt by association. It amounts to an unverifiable smear meant to end the argument without merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    AND GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH A CACTUS!

    LYING LEFTIST WHITE CAT SHIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Prove that


    You full well know African Americans and non racists are insulted by that flag you proudly display



    So we know you are a racist


    Then you spend your whole day ignoring racism and defending them here



    You are a racist
    How many African Americans are there in America? Not very many. There's some in Minnesota. That's probably where the most of all in America are.

    I happen to know some....they like it here.

    Saying African American is racist if they aren't. That BS started with Obama, a man with zero black American heritage. He's an African American.

    Black Americans are Americans and have been since before the country began.

    Did you know the Revolution started over a black American getting shot?

    Well..he was was 1/2 African, but that was a long time ago.
    Last edited by Matt Dillon; 06-18-2021 at 10:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Your post here always defends racists
    Really? How have I "always defend(ed) racists?" Give some examples with your reasoning.

    You just claiming you are not racist amounts to the shoplifter being caught with stolen ho hoes down their pants saying
    “ how did those get there I didn’t steal them”
    A complete strawman argument that amounts to a red herring. That has to be the singularly most absurd and utterly stupid counter-argument I've heard in at least a decade. It combines a complete fabrication (aka lie) with some of the most fractured ill-logic possible into an ad hominem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Prove that
    Matt Dillion is correct here. Your argument does amount to Everyone's a racist until they prove to your unspecified satisfaction they aren't. That makes you a bigot, but not necessarily a racist as you obstinately cling to a set of absurd notions without proof on what racism is.

    bigot
    [ˈbiɡət]
    NOUN
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

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    As an example of a racist on this board, I'd say that Text Drivers are Killers is a good example. His posts often directly impugn people based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up. I suspect he would even agree and admit to that.

    Here's an example of that:

    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    the average black IQ is 65. They cannot be educated. All welfare for blacks must end. That may send them back to africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A racist is someone by words and/or actions used against another either negatively or positively that differentiates that person based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up.

    Note how I didn't use the word "racist" to define a racist (Kendi, the referenced source in the OP does--repeatedly). Using that word to define a racist is a logical fallacy in circular reasoning. That is, evince's argument (and Kendi's) is that someone is a racist because they say racist things. That means that whatever evince wants to claim is racist makes someone a racist. There is no attempt to specify what actually constitutes a racist statement. Instead, it's a case of I know it when I hear it (or see it).

    too is wrong. Racism is an idea, a thought. It isn't a physical thing. You can't touch racism. You can't point to an object and say that object is racism. Sure, a physical object can have qualities that make it racist but the idea or thought that went into making that object is racism, not the object itself.
    Thus, one can be anti-racist in thought even if they don't act. Failure to act can be attributed to other reasons such as fear of retribution. That is, someone may be anti-racist and not want to get into a physical altercation with another person that is spewing racist statements (as defined above). That doesn't make the person unwilling to enter a confrontation racist, that's an absurd proposition. It is another fallacy reducing the argument to the absurd.

    An example of that would be to be non-racist / anti-racist you have to be willing to suffer personal injury or even death taking on a racist. Anything less and you too are a racist. That's what evince claims above.

    Evince's argument is false. It uses a false definition, then uses more logical fallacies to try and force anyone accepting it into a straight jacket of actions to prove their acceptance of the original false definition, possibly at the risk of injury or death.

    Ibram X. Kendi's book How to be an Anti-Racist is little more than a puerile exercise in academic fraud that is easily demolished when reason is applied to it. The man is an academic lightweight of no credibility based on the poor reasoning he has shown in his works and in person.
    “Likewise, evince's claim that if you don't physically act against racism makes you racist.”



    If you see a murder and dont call the police you just aided the murderers


    When you see racism and just walk past as if there is no racism


    You can be morally charged as a racist


    Your single definition designed to clear you of your racism doesn’t matter


    SOCIETY and its consensus on your racism does matter


    The Republican Party is racist


    Anyone who defends the Republican party’s racism is racist


    The Republican Party repeating that someone else put the ho hoes down their pants is bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    As an example of a racist on this board, I'd say that Text Drivers are Killers is a good example. His posts often directly impugn people based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up. I suspect he would even agree and admit to that.

    Here's an example of that:

    And you people NEVER take the obvious racists here to task


    Why?

    Because it works in your partys favour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    How many African Americans are there in America? Not very many. There's some in Minnesota. That's probably where the most of all in America are.

    I happen to know some....they like it here.

    Saying African American is racist if they aren't. That BS started with Obama, a man with zero black American heritage. He's an African American.

    Black Americans are Americans and have been since before the country began.

    Did you know the Revolution started over a black American getting shot?

    Well..he was was 1/2 African, but that was a long time ago.

    You are an obvious racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You are an obvious racist
    The African-Americans I know speak Dutch and are white, racist.


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