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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A racist is someone by words and/or actions used against another either negatively or positively that differentiates that person based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up.

    Note how I didn't use the word "racist" to define a racist (Kendi, the referenced source in the OP does--repeatedly). Using that word to define a racist is a logical fallacy in circular reasoning. That is, evince's argument (and Kendi's) is that someone is a racist because they say racist things. That means that whatever evince wants to claim is racist makes someone a racist. There is no attempt to specify what actually constitutes a racist statement. Instead, it's a case of I know it when I hear it (or see it).

    Likewise, evince's claim that if you don't physically act against racism makes you racist. This too is wrong. Racism is an idea, a thought. It isn't a physical thing. You can't touch racism. You can't point to an object and say that object is racism. Sure, a physical object can have qualities that make it racist but the idea or thought that went into making that object is racism, not the object itself.
    Thus, one can be anti-racist in thought even if they don't act. Failure to act can be attributed to other reasons such as fear of retribution. That is, someone may be anti-racist and not want to get into a physical altercation with another person that is spewing racist statements (as defined above). That doesn't make the person unwilling to enter a confrontation racist, that's an absurd proposition. It is another fallacy reducing the argument to the absurd.

    An example of that would be to be non-racist / anti-racist you have to be willing to suffer personal injury or even death taking on a racist. Anything less and you too are a racist. That's what evince claims above.

    Evince's argument is false. It uses a false definition, then uses more logical fallacies to try and force anyone accepting it into a straight jacket of actions to prove their acceptance of the original false definition, possibly at the risk of injury or death.

    Ibram X. Kendi's book How to be an Anti-Racist is little more than a puerile exercise in academic fraud that is easily demolished when reason is applied to it. The man is an academic lightweight of no credibility based on the poor reasoning he has shown in his works and in person.




    Your words and actions prove you are a racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I don’t need to


    You racists prove it your selves all day long here
    So you can't. I figured but it's just nice to get confirmation. You're a cunt and always will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    So you can't. I figured but it's just nice to get confirmation. You're a cunt and always will be
    And no cunt In The world wants your racist tiny pants worm inadequate boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Your words and actions prove you are a racist
    Your inability to actually prove that with evidence shows you are an idiot.

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    Convicted repeats in prison often repeat the lie that they are not rapists


    It doesn’t change the cold hard court documented fact that they are rapists

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    In every prison there are Convicted murders who claim they are not murderers

    It doesn’t matter

    They still are murderers
    Two proofs that the above statements / reasoning is false:

    Man Convicted Of Murder Found ‘Actually Innocent’ After Spending Years Locked Up
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/21/l...-murder-texas/



    It does matter. They may be correct in their claim and their conviction wrongly applied.

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    Convicted rapists in prison often repeat the lie that they are not rapists


    It doesn’t change the cold hard court documented fact that they are rapists

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A racist is someone by words and/or actions used against another either negatively or positively that differentiates that person based on their ethnicity, heritage, lineage, or genetic make up.


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    An okay definition if you substitute "race" for your list starting with "ethnicity". The word "racist" loses its meaning when applied to biases based on characteristics other than race. I think you've also seriously misconstrued the simple definition of racism quoted by the OP. Racism is more than "an idea, a thought". It is at it's worse behavior or purposeful action with racist intent.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Two proofs that the above statements / reasoning is false:


    https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/21/l...-murder-texas/



    It does matter. They may be correct in their claim and their conviction wrongly applied.


    Then prove you are not a racist


    You don’t have evidence of that


    He did have verifiable evidence of his innocence

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    An okay definition if you substitute "race" for your list starting with "ethnicity". The word "racist" loses its meaning when applied to biases based on characteristics other than race. I think you've also seriously misconstrued the simple definition of racism quoted by the OP. Racism is more than "an idea, a thought". It is at it's worse behavior or purposeful action with racist intent.

    It doesn’t get to define racism


    We don’t let murderers define murder


    We don’t let rapists define rape


    We don’t let child molesters define child molestation

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    An okay definition if you substitute "race" for your list starting with "ethnicity". The word "racist" loses its meaning when applied to biases based on characteristics other than race. I think you've also seriously misconstrued the simple definition of racism quoted by the OP. Racism is more than "an idea, a thought". It is at it's worse behavior or purposeful action with racist intent.
    racism noun

    rac·​ism | \ ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi- \
    Definition of racism
    1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    A racist is someone who applies racism to others. That's the manifestation of racism. Racism is an idea. You have to have that first to get to what being a racist means.

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    If you ignore murder and defend the murderer you can be charged


    If you ignore rape and defend the rapists you can be charged



    If you ignore child molestation and defend the child molesters you can be charged


    Want to claim you are not a racist?


    Stop ignoring racism and defending racists



    Easy huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Then prove you are not a racist


    You don’t have evidence of that


    He did have verifiable evidence of his innocence
    So everyone's a racist unless they can prove they aren't?




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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    A racist is someone who applies racism to others. That's the manifestation of racism. Racism is an idea. You have to have that first to get to what being a racist means.

    And the entire Republican Party fits that definition

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