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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and that leads you to believe that licensed drivers are somehow more skilled than unlicensed drivers?
    Where did I make that claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, I see, they are part of the natural world, inherent, so if some dimwit wants to murder hundreds from high up in a hotel room he has the right to do so, it is his “freedom”
    hyperbole and sensationalist bullshit.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Where did I make that claim?
    when you said that a license shows a person has the minimum skill level
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Yeah, when you throw in places like Nigeria and the Sudan in comparisons, we are talking developed nations, in which our numbers are embarrassing
    Source please

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    when you said that a license shows a person has the minimum skill level
    That's not what I said I said,

    "...to try and establish that a person has a minimal level of skill to operate the vehicle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No right’s are absolute, fact
    You never have facts you lying commie dick sucker. You cocksuckers are begging for war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so you're unable to provide any actual reference that the founding fathers agreed that rights were not absolute................

    what actual reference DO you have that says rights can be regulated?
    Wait a minute, you want direct quotes from someone saying exactly rights are not absolute? For real? Ever read John Locke?

    Show us a direct quote from a Founding Father saying guns in America can not be regulated, and don’t say “not infringed,” that is totally reliant upon the predatory clause which no one has been able to interrupt, we want to see “can not be regulated”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    lighten up francis. he's correct. whenever you buy a firearm from a licensed dealer, you fill out a 4473.....what do you think happens to that form?
    That form is kept by the dealer forever. Stupid lying fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is not true proven by the mere fact that any right mentioned in the Constitution has been regulated at one time or another dating back to Colonial days and still is today
    Irrelevant. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States. Congress does not have authority to change the Constitution. Neither does the President. Neither does the Supreme court.
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    And all the “freedom” rhetoric is pure bullshit, amazing how those on the right so quickly turn an abstract concept as “freedom” into a bumper sticker cliche
    Freedom is not a cliche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It is not his freedom. It is murder. 59 dead is not 'hundreds'. Most of those died from stampede, not by getting shot.
    But doesn’t he have the inherent right to murder who he wants, exercise his “freedom?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    I wonder why there has never been a mass shooting at a police station or an NRA convention?
    Heh. They shoot back, obviously!

    The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is good guys with guns. There are a LOT more good guys than bad guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    Yes.
    Unconstitutional.
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    what actual reference DO you have that says rights can be regulated?


    You sir, are a grade a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Even arch conservative Scalia admits that with respect to guns

    “Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” “like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited” “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” -Scalia in Heller delivering the Opinion of the Court
    Neither Scalia nor the Supreme Court have authority to change the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    But doesn’t he have the inherent right to murder who he wants, exercise his “freedom?”
    No. It is not an inherent right to murder.
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