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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Ah, so what are you up to, half dozen over ten years? Really want to compare the numbers?
    >0 That's all that matters to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You don’t have control of other peoples bodies


    Want no more abortions


    Here’s a plan just as shitty as your planned evil for women

    All sperm producing males get their tubes tied and are allowed to have it undone once they want kids

    ONLY MALE BODIES ARE EFFECTED



    NO ABORTIONS WILL HAPPEN
    Unconstitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No right’s are absolute, fact
    Fixation. Argument of the stone fallacy. Attempted proof by stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    Yes.
    So which gun if any could known?

    BTW I give you credit as you're the first leftist with either enough guts or too little brains to answer that question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    1. wrong..........rights were considered absolute by the framers and the people who ratified the constitution. 2. It was later decided that rights can be regulated because people didn't like the freedom of others.

    the debate minutes of the constitution, as well as the papers, have several of the framers talking about rights that the government would have zero power or authority over............is there a secret document that denotes that they lied to the people?
    That is not true proven by the mere fact that any right mentioned in the Constitution has been regulated at one time or another dating back to Colonial days and still is today

    And all the “freedom” rhetoric is pure bullshit, amazing how those on the right so quickly turn an abstract concept as “freedom” into a bumper sticker cliche

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No right’s are absolute, fact
    Even arch conservative Scalia admits that with respect to guns

    “Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” “like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited” “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” -Scalia in Heller delivering the Opinion of the Court

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    then why required them in the first place? the only obvious purpose would be for revenue given to the state, am I right?
    It's primarily to generate revenue and to try and establish that a person has a minimal level of skill to operate the vehicle. It does little to guarantee safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Rights don't come from a piece of paper, dumbass. You simply don't recognize the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.
    Oh, I see, they are part of the natural world, inherent, so if some dimwit wants to murder hundreds from high up in a hotel room he has the right to do so, it is his “freedom”

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    What's the purpose of these posts?

    Capping each other's asses is what we do in America.
    People like to do what they're good at,
    and most Americans aren't exactly splitting atoms.
    Especially Middle Americans, but idiots abound everywhere.
    So they perpetrate mass shootings instead, something they can do with reasonable efficacy.

    How the fuck are these incidents even news anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That is not true proven by the mere fact that any right mentioned in the Constitution has been regulated at one time or another dating back to Colonial days and still is today

    And all the “freedom” rhetoric is pure bullshit, amazing how those on the right so quickly turn an abstract concept as “freedom” into a bumper sticker cliche
    so you're unable to provide any actual reference that the founding fathers agreed that rights were not absolute................

    what actual reference DO you have that says rights can be regulated?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Even arch conservative Scalia admits that with respect to guns

    “Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” “like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited” “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” -Scalia in Heller delivering the Opinion of the Court
    Scalia was a pro big government control tyrant. you should stop using him as an example for anything other than statism
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    It's primarily to generate revenue and to try and establish that a person has a minimal level of skill to operate the vehicle. It does little to guarantee safety
    and that leads you to believe that licensed drivers are somehow more skilled than unlicensed drivers?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, I see, they are part of the natural world, inherent, so if some dimwit wants to murder hundreds from high up in a hotel room he has the right to do so, it is his “freedom”
    It is not his freedom. It is murder. 59 dead is not 'hundreds'. Most of those died from stampede, not by getting shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The United States enjoys one of the lowest murder rates in the world. Source: WorldAtlas
    There are currently some 443 million guns in the United States. Only one of them was used in the Alabama shooting. Only two of them were used in the Austin shooting.
    I wonder why there has never been a mass shooting at a police station or an NRA convention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The United States enjoys one of the lowest murder rates in the world. Source: WorldAtlas
    Yeah, when you throw in places like Nigeria and the Sudan in comparisons, we are talking developed nations, in which our numbers are embarrassing

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