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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Thanks. I have no major disagreement except with your view on confiscation.

    Would you consider answering the question I posed please?
    I did, specifically, “no one is coming to grab your whatever,” you can keep it if it as long as you complied with all the prerequisites

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I did, specifically, “no one is coming to grab your whatever,” you can keep it if it as long as you complied with all the prerequisites
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin Saké View Post
    Europe is still a place you can emigrate to.
    Don’t have to emigrate, I have dual citizenship, two passports, but I live here

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    The constitition doesn’t promise you weapons of war you stupid fucking Russo bot hole on Q ness drugs
    you don't know how to read the Constitution, moron. It doesn't give anybody rights, it limits government power, which also happens to tell them that they have no authority to infringe on our right to weapons of war
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Not a mass shooting.
    2 dead. 2 injured.
    Oh, well that makes it all better, tell that to the dead and injured

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakemax View Post
    Goddam fucking lying shit stain.
    lighten up francis. he's correct. whenever you buy a firearm from a licensed dealer, you fill out a 4473.....what do you think happens to that form?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I did, specifically, “no one is coming to grab your whatever,” you can keep it if it as long as you complied with all the prerequisites
    so you'll accept other prerequisites to exercise all other rights, correct?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Driving isnt a right
    Yes it is.
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    never has been never will be.
    It always has been.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Can the state regulate privileges? Yes.
    The State can regulate use of vehicles (include horse and carriage) on public roads, but it cannot outlaw it.
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    They can also rescind that privilege. It's just a fact.
    It is not a privilege. It is a right. Anyone that can handle a car safely and can demonstrate that to the State must be given a license.
    A gun needs no such demonstration. Like any weapon, they can be owned and carried by anyone. Their use is regulated, using such laws as assault and murder laws.
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    What the govt SHOULD do is protect our RIGHTS.
    Correct. This is stated in the Declaration of Independents and alluded to again in the Constitution.
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    The left has abandoned that principle.
    Because Democrats do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Did you forget the Constitution again?
    Been down this road hundred times, quickly, one fact, no Constitutional right is absolute, never was, never will be, they are all regulated, and please, don’t waste everyone’s time and return with the inherent right bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I did, specifically, “no one is coming to grab your whatever,” you can keep it if it as long as you complied with all the prerequisites
    So if I can own one weapon capable or a "mass shooting" what logic can you use to prevent me from owning another type of weapon with the same ability? Is it just matter of how many people can be killed in one location? What if a person took an AR 15 to 10 different location and only killed 3 at each? That wouldn't be considered a mass shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Never mind the mass killings when a car drove into a crowd in New Orleans. Never mind the mass killings when the same thing happened in Boston.
    And again in Atlanta. And again in Seattle.
    Ah, so what are you up to, half dozen over ten years? Really want to compare the numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes it is.

    It always has been.

    The State can regulate use of vehicles (include horse and carriage) on public roads, but it cannot outlaw it.

    It is not a privilege. It is a right. Anyone that can handle a car safely and can demonstrate that to the State must be given a license.
    A gun needs no such demonstration. Like any weapon, they can be owned and carried by anyone. Their use is regulated, using such laws as assault and murder laws.

    Correct. This is stated in the Declaration of Independents and alluded to again in the Constitution.

    Because Democrats do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution.
    Sorry misread that

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Been down this road hundred times, quickly, one fact, no Constitutional right is absolute, never was, never will be, they are all regulated, and please, don’t waste everyone’s time and return with the inherent right bullshit
    1. wrong..........rights were considered absolute by the framers and the people who ratified the constitution. 2. It was later decided that rights can be regulated because people didn't like the freedom of others.

    the debate minutes of the constitution, as well as the papers, have several of the framers talking about rights that the government would have zero power or authority over............is there a secret document that denotes that they lied to the people?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Humans have a born right to their bodies you fucking idiot
    What about the right of the aborted child to his body? Murder for convenience is murder, twit.
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    They do not have born rights to weapons of war
    Yes they do. The right of self defense is inherent.
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Only a traitor would get confused by that
    It is YOU that fails to recognize the Constitution of the United States no any State constitution.
    It is YOU that supports the Democrats that have successfully (for now) executed a coup and are converting the federal government into an oligarchy.
    It is YOU that supports fascism and communism.
    It is YOU that supports treason.
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