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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    Translation: It doesn't matter if you can show CNN and the NY Times admitting they were wrong/lied this entire time about this whole list of stuff...I've decided to pretend away the evidence and arbitrarily assign you the role of someone in denial and making things up...because that's not me being in denial and making things up at all.



    Blind denial of established facts. What a compelling debate strategy. Adult level debate might be too advanced for you.
    show a fucking link to the NYT AND CNN admitting this shit drug works for covid, stupid. YOU HAD SOURCES THAT CLAIMED THEY DID. show the fucking proof they did, bitch. you use stupid fuck, lying right wing sources, asshole. and they FUCKING LIE.

    from the lying ass right wing source TOWNHALL article you quoted- (no mention of nyt or cnn in this link)

    For a period of four weeks late last spring, President Trump took hydroxychloroquine as a preventative drug.

    AND TRUMP STILL GOT INFECTED, STUPID SHIT.

    Summary
    In announcing that he has been taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent COVID-19, President Donald Trump made a series of inaccurate, unsubstantiated or misleading statements related to the drug, which remains an unproven treatment against the coronavirus:

    Trump said he started taking hydroxychloroquine because he thinks “it’s good” and has “heard a lot of good stories.” But there is no published data showing that the medication protects against infection with the coronavirus, and experts recommend such use only within clinical trials.
    As part of his justification for taking hydroxychloroquine, the president repeatedly said that “many” frontline workers take the drug for COVID-19 prevention. It’s unclear how many people do take the drug for prevention, or prophylaxis, but several physicians told us they were not aware of the practice at their institutions.
    Trump insisted that there only has been one “bad survey” of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. That’s false. Numerous studies, including the best evidence to date, do not suggest that hydroxychloroquine is beneficial for COVID-19 patients.
    The president called an unpublished study that used Veterans Affairs data and found no benefit to using hydroxychloroquine “phony” and “false,” and accused the authors of being politically motivated. There is no evidence of political bias, and while the study has not been peer-reviewed, its results are consistent with other published papers.
    Trump was also not transparent about the safety risks of hydroxychloroquine, saying “it doesn’t hurt people” and “you’re not going to get sick or die.” While severe side effects of the drug are rare, they have been reported to the Food and Drug Administration.
    Trump claimed Rick Bright, former director of the agency charged with overseeing the production and purchase of drugs to counter public health threats, must have been “a believer at one point” in hydroxychloroquine because he “signed the application” for emergency use of the drug. Bright, however, said he did so under pressure and “didn’t have a choice.”
    Analysis
    The president has long touted hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, as a COVID-19 treatment, despite a lack of evidence that it’s safe and effective for the disease.

    In recent weeks, Trump had backed off his promotion of the drug, as a string of studies have detailed uncommon but potentially serious side effects and failed to find that the medication is doing much for patients.

    Guidelines from the National Institutes of Health, last updated on May 12, find “insufficient clinical data to recommend either for or against” the use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19, while the FDA has cautioned against the use of the drug for COVID-19 outside of hospitals or clinical trials, given the risk of dangerous heart rhythm problems.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/tr...roquine-again/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    show a fucking link to the NYT AND CNN admitting this shit drug works for covid, stupid.
    Um...okay. I guess I can post it as many times as you need.

    CNN: "Their study of 2,541 hospitalized patients found that those given hydroxychloroquine were much less likely to die."

    NY Times admits hydro works.jpg

    But the kicker is that this isn't new. We already had this information and screamed it from the rooftops for a year straight, while the left's anti-science doomsday cult screamed us down, smeared us as kooks, and told us to "follow the science" for questioning the herd...and now that President Trump is gone, they admit it was all a lie, and that the drug worked the entire time, now that they've murdered thousands of people for selfish, partisan gain.

    Here is the evidence I have posted over and over again for numerous months to the brick wall that is the left's brainwashed, spoon-fed cult to be ignored and ridiculed for being more informed and intelligent than they are:

    Thousands of doctors admit Hydroxychloroquine works quickly and effectively against COVID, and that they would prescribe it for their own family members, yet Democrats repeatedly lied about it, attacked President Trump for pointing out how promising it was early on (before being forced to admit he was right), tried to smear him (the President who refuses his own salary) as trying to personally profit from it, and even falsely blamed him when random people absurdly tried ingesting non-medicinal Hydroxychloroquine with fatal results. Their intentional lies about this treatment cost thousands of people their lives.

    A New Study Shows, Again, That Hydroxychloroquine Works

    Study finds hydroxychloroquine helped coronavirus patients survive better

    Thousands of Doctors: Yes, Hydroxychloroquine Works Against Wuhan Coronavirus

    Yale epidemiologist says hydroxychloroquine could save up to 100K lives if used for coronavirus

    *So my question now is, when do we get to the part where CNN also tells you it's okay to think the OTHER thoughts I've been saying this whole time, like the obvious reality that no one should be locking anything down for a 99% survival rate coronavirus that is just like the thousands of others that came before it...lock down the vulnerable and leave the rest of society alone. Can we skip ahead to that part? The part where you are authorized to think that thought as well?*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Democrats are now backpedaling, admitting they were wrong and lied about President Trump at every turn, and that the facts continue to vindicate him, contrary to everything they told us would happen, on too many issues to even keep track of at this point.

    President Trump recently went over the latest list of their admissions (after the damage from being incessantly lied about was already done, of course, as always) in one speech so people could comprehend the magnitude of the left's relentless corruption, bias, and abuses of power to mislead and misinform the American people:

    Just like conservatives said from the beginning, and just like the media was caught lying and smearing President Trump as a liar for telling the truth about, we now know that:

    "-Hydroxychloroquine works

    -The Virus came from a Chinese lab

    -Hunter Biden’s laptop was real

    -Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op

    -The “Russian Bounties” story was fake

    -We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time

    -Blue state lockdowns didn’t work

    -Schools should be opened

    -Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country

    -Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful"

    Trump: Media ‘Now Admitting I Was Right About Everything They Lied About’

    Eight Anti-Trump Narratives The Media Finally Had To Admit Were False All Along



    Must be easy as Hell for Democrats to steal elections at this point with almost the entire media serving as nothing more than DNC propaganda mills; when those whose role in society it is to inform the public...instead conspire with one side to lie about the other and rig everything.

    In fact, we already know that just the media's corrupt, dishonest suppression of the bombshell Hunter Biden scandal alone altered the outcome of the election (and then there is the myriad of other ways Democrats were caught rigging and stealing the presidency)...hence, Biden should not be in office and is an illegitimate usurper who the American people never wanted or elected...all made possible by our hostile, subversive, rogue "news media" and its 24/7 war against truth, accuracy, and integrity.
    Actually you assholes who hate America and the common decency of civilization on Earth, and are a worthless clump of crap on humanity appear to be reversing the evolutional process in your regard, and all the way back to the prehistoric hominid times of over 8 million years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Actually you assholes who hate America...
    Say the people who:

    -burn our flag
    -ban our Pledge
    -spit on our Anthem
    -shred our Constitution
    -tear down our monuments
    -lie to school children about our history
    -side with and root for every enemy this country has...for the last hundred years or so straight
    -oppose national defense
    -just got done mass murdering thousands of Americans by deliberately lying to them about hydroxychloroquine for selfish, partisan gain
    -spent the last four years burning down courthouses, declaring secession, and murdering cops

    Any other Democrat trademark you would like to hilariously try to project onto others?

    Treason, disloyalty, and hating your own country is a DEMOCRAT thing, dumb-ass. Try comprehending what your own side stands for.


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    tRump was onto his atrocities at being a lawlessly hacked in pos who's mission was to destroy the soul of humanity. As of February 2021 to which the death rate is over 600,000 currently. Yet despite this terrible atrocity of tRump's ghastly legacy, President Biden managed to get over 200 million Americans vaccinated and protected against the affects of the COVID-19:

    Scientists suggest that former President Trump caused 461,000 excess deaths

    The Lancet report is out today (11 February), which suggests that former President Trump’s policymaking created an excess of “461,100 deaths” – before the COVID-19 pandemic hit the United States
    “Americans’ health was deteriorating even as our economy was booming,” says Dr Steffie Woolhandler, who co-chairs the Commission with Dr David U. Himmelstein, and who both serve as Distinguished Professors at the City University of New York at Hunter College and Lecturers in Medicine at Harvard.

    “This unprecedented decoupling of health from national wealth signals that our society is sick. While the wealthy have thrived, most Americans have lost ground, both economically and medically. The Biden administration must reboot democracy and implement the progressive social and health policies needed to put the country on the road to better health.”

    https://www.openaccessgovernment.org...deaths/103566/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    Say the people who:

    -burn our flag
    -ban our Pledge
    -spit on our Anthem
    -shred our Constitution
    -tear down our monuments
    -lie to school children about our history
    -side with and root for every enemy this country has...for the last hundred years or so straight
    -oppose national defense
    -just got done mass murdering thousands of Americans by deliberately lying to them about hydroxychloroquine for selfish, partisan gain
    -spent the last four years burning down courthouses, declaring secession, and murdering cops

    Any other Democrat trademark you would like to hilariously try to project onto others?

    Treason, disloyalty, and hating your own country is a DEMOCRAT thing, dumb-ass. Try comprehending what your own side stands for.

    You are a fool and let the door knob hit your trolling hide on the way out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    tRump was onto his atrocities at being a lawlessly hacked in pos who's mission was to destroy the soul of humanity.
    convulse.jpg

    So you're stupid, hysterical, and ridiculous. We get it. Next.

    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    As of February 2021 to which the death rate is over 600,000 currently. Yet despite this terrible atrocity of tRump's ghastly legacy, President Biden managed to get over 200 million Americans vaccinated and protected against the affects of the COVID-19:

    Scientists suggest that former President Trump caused 461,000 excess deaths

    The Lancet report is out today (11 February), which suggests that former President Trump’s policymaking created an excess of “461,100 deaths” – before the COVID-19 pandemic hit the United States
    “Americans’ health was deteriorating even as our economy was booming,” says Dr Steffie Woolhandler, who co-chairs the Commission with Dr David U. Himmelstein, and who both serve as Distinguished Professors at the City University of New York at Hunter College and Lecturers in Medicine at Harvard.

    “This unprecedented decoupling of health from national wealth signals that our society is sick. While the wealthy have thrived, most Americans have lost ground, both economically and medically. The Biden administration must reboot democracy and implement the progressive social and health policies needed to put the country on the road to better health.”

    https://www.openaccessgovernment.org...deaths/103566/
    This lie has already been repeatedly corrected.

    -Democrats violated every COVID restriction to help BLM and Antifa burn the country down over a lie.

    -Democrats caused the mask shortage.

    -Democrats caused the ventilator shortage.

    -Democrats put bureaucratic FDA red tape in the way of responding to this crisis.

    -Democrats opposed the China travel ban that saved thousands of American lives.

    -Democrats attacked President Trump as overreacting in the beginning and demanded that he prioritize the flu instead.

    -Democrats were downplaying COVID and telling everyone to live their lives normally as recently as March.

    -Democrats spent the first months of this pandemic diverting all the federal resources they could to impeachment.

    -Democrats wasted critical time and resources blocking emergency relief to stuff the bill with taxpayer-funded power grabs and handouts for their donors.

    -Democrats are lying to make the most prepared country on the planet look unprepared.

    Even pathologists and other experts from the NY Times, World Health Organization, Stanford and Oxford researchers, and anti-Trump critics were forced to praise President Trump's aggressively proactive handling of COVID, to thank him for saving their own lives personally, to admit that his China travel ban (which Democrats opposed) worked, to admit that Democrat governors incompetently botched COVID, and to admit that this "crisis" is wildly exaggerated and fake.

    California's Gavin Newsom even stated:

    “Let me just be candid with you. I’d be lying to you to say that [Trump] hasn’t been responsive to our needs. He has. And so, as a sort of an offer of objectivity, I have to acknowledge that publicly...The fact is, every time that I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line. When we asked to get the support for that [USNS] Mercy ship in Southern California, he was able to direct that in real-time. We've got 2,000 of these field medical sites that are up, almost all operational now in the state, because of his support. Those are the facts."

    The timeline reveals what a massive lie Democrats are trying to spread.

    Try thinking of a DIFFERENT lie next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    You are a fool and let the door knob hit your trolling hide on the way out!
    Ah, get a laundry list of all the America-hating treason Democrats continuously inflict in response to your false projection, and you resort to cheap ad hominem fallacies.

    Game. Set. Match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    tRump was onto his atrocities at being a lawlessly hacked in pos who's mission was to destroy the soul of humanity. As of February 2021 to which the death rate is over 600,000 currently. Yet despite this terrible atrocity of tRump's ghastly legacy, President Biden managed to get over 200 million Americans vaccinated and protected against the affects of the COVID-19:

    Scientists suggest that former President Trump caused 461,000 excess deaths

    The Lancet report is out today (11 February), which suggests that former President Trump’s policymaking created an excess of “461,100 deaths” – before the COVID-19 pandemic hit the United States
    “Americans’ health was deteriorating even as our economy was booming,” says Dr Steffie Woolhandler, who co-chairs the Commission with Dr David U. Himmelstein, and who both serve as Distinguished Professors at the City University of New York at Hunter College and Lecturers in Medicine at Harvard.

    “This unprecedented decoupling of health from national wealth signals that our society is sick. While the wealthy have thrived, most Americans have lost ground, both economically and medically. The Biden administration must reboot democracy and implement the progressive social and health policies needed to put the country on the road to better health.”

    https://www.openaccessgovernment.org...deaths/103566/
    Trump!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    Um...okay. I guess I can post it as many times as you need.

    CNN: "Their study of 2,541 hospitalized patients found that those given hydroxychloroquine were much less likely to die."

    NY Times admits hydro works.jpg

    But the kicker is that this isn't new. We already had this information and screamed it from the rooftops for a year straight, while the left's anti-science doomsday cult screamed us down, smeared us as kooks, and told us to "follow the science" for questioning the herd...and now that President Trump is gone, they admit it was all a lie, and that the drug worked the entire time, now that they've murdered thousands of people for selfish, partisan gain.

    Here is the evidence I have posted over and over again for numerous months to the brick wall that is the left's brainwashed, spoon-fed cult to be ignored and ridiculed for being more informed and intelligent than they are:

    Thousands of doctors admit Hydroxychloroquine works quickly and effectively against COVID, and that they would prescribe it for their own family members, yet Democrats repeatedly lied about it, attacked President Trump for pointing out how promising it was early on (before being forced to admit he was right), tried to smear him (the President who refuses his own salary) as trying to personally profit from it, and even falsely blamed him when random people absurdly tried ingesting non-medicinal Hydroxychloroquine with fatal results. Their intentional lies about this treatment cost thousands of people their lives.

    A New Study Shows, Again, That Hydroxychloroquine Works

    Study finds hydroxychloroquine helped coronavirus patients survive better

    Thousands of Doctors: Yes, Hydroxychloroquine Works Against Wuhan Coronavirus

    Yale epidemiologist says hydroxychloroquine could save up to 100K lives if used for coronavirus

    *So my question now is, when do we get to the part where CNN also tells you it's okay to think the OTHER thoughts I've been saying this whole time, like the obvious reality that no one should be locking anything down for a 99% survival rate coronavirus that is just like the thousands of others that came before it...lock down the vulnerable and leave the rest of society alone. Can we skip ahead to that part? The part where you are authorized to think that thought as well?*
    that is it? reporting some half ass studies that go against 98% of respected studies is not agreeing that the majority of experts is wrong...it is called reporting. it is like when they quoted trump as saying windmills cause cancer- they are not agreeing with the dumbfuck bitch, they are just reporting the bullshit he spews. get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    that is it? reporting some half ass studies that go against 98% of respected studies
    Thousands of doctors say it works (links provided) and that they would give it to their own families (links provided)...because 98% of the studies say it doesn't work and is poison (no links provided)?

    That's what you're going to try to sell here?

    No, lying Democrat media outlets TELL YOU that all the doctors and scientists agree that it doesn't work and is poison...and since you don't think for yourself or research anything, you come straight onto sites like this and start parroting the misinformation like a good little pawn. Meanwhile all the doctors and scientists themselves tell you, in their own words (links provided), the complete opposite of everything the lying Democrat media outlets tell you they think.

    This is proof positive that your media outlets blatantly lie and misinform you, and all you can deduce from that is that it somehow further proves the exact opposite of what it all points to.

    Brainwashed and fact-resistant to the bitter end.




    We have the substance of the article on one side saying hydroxychloroquine is highly effective against COVID, versus the CNN spin on the other side saying, "Yeah but..."

    You ignore the first part and listen only to the second part, because you're an unthinking follower.

    kill children import hostile immigrants.jpg

    But being an idiot still isn't an excuse. You're still a murderer for refusing to see what's there and helping misinform people into not taking life-saving medicine.

    And the studies naturally say the same thing the thousands of doctors are saying. There are a handful of outliers that have very specific sets of circumstances in which the drug was less effective (those few were the ones relentlessly used by Democrat media to deliberately misinform the country...that's why you have all the doctors saying one thing, and all the Democrats saying the opposite).

    I realize that CNN is telling you to believe otherwise, but think for yourself about how incompatible these two things are. Thousands of doctors and studies (links provided) showing that it works, and has worked this entire time, versus Democrats saying it does not and will poison you (no links provided)...until the moment President Trump was overthrown, and then they reverse course and admit it works. Kind of doesn't pass the common sense test. Obviously something is wrong with your conclusion there, genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post


    Thousands of doctors say it works (links provided) and that they would give it to their own families (links provided)...because 98% of the studies say it doesn't work and is poison (no links provided)?

    That's what you're going to try to sell here?

    No, lying Democrat media outlets TELL YOU that all the doctors and scientists agree that it doesn't work and is poison...and since you don't think for yourself or research anything, you come straight onto sites like this and start parroting the misinformation like a good little pawn. Meanwhile all the doctors and scientists themselves tell you, in their own words (links provided), the complete opposite of everything the lying Democrat media outlets tell you they think.

    This is proof positive that your media outlets blatantly lie and misinform you, and all you can deduce from that is that it somehow further proves the exact opposite of what it all points to.

    Brainwashed and fact-resistant to the bitter end.




    We have the substance of the article on one side saying hydroxychloroquine is highly effective against COVID, versus the CNN spin on the other side saying, "Yeah but..."

    You ignore the first part and listen only to the second part, because you're an unthinking follower.

    kill children import hostile immigrants.jpg

    But being an idiot still isn't an excuse. You're still a murderer for refusing to see what's there and helping misinform people into not taking life-saving medicine.

    And the studies naturally say the same thing the thousands of doctors are saying. There are a handful of outliers that have very specific sets of circumstances in which the drug was less effective (those few were the ones relentlessly used by Democrat media to deliberately misinform the country...that's why you have all the doctors saying one thing, and all the Democrats saying the opposite).

    I realize that CNN is telling you to believe otherwise, but think for yourself about how incompatible these two things are. Thousands of doctors and studies (links provided) showing that it works, and has worked this entire time, versus Democrats saying it does not and will poison you (no links provided)...until the moment President Trump was overthrown, and then they reverse course and admit it works. Kind of doesn't pass the common sense test. Obviously something is wrong with your conclusion there, genius.

    you are brainwashed....google "effectiveness of hydroxwhatever" see all the RESPECTED medical expert studies and conclusions compared to the half ass, hearsay bullshit you try to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    you are brainwashed
    I literally showed you independently verifiable links of your own news sources admitting this drug worked (links provided) the whole time and thousands of doctors and studies saying the same thing (links provided), but you can't be talked out of believing CNN's prior lies...even by CNN itself...and it's SOMEONE ELSE who's brainwashed?!?



    Most hilariously self-unaware moron of the year award contender right here, folks.



    Gotta hand it to CNN on this China level indoctrination. You are a brick wall of being brainwashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arminius View Post
    Democrats are now backpedaling, admitting they were wrong and lied about President Trump at every turn, and that the facts continue to vindicate him, contrary to everything they told us would happen, on too many issues to even keep track of at this point.

    President Trump recently went over the latest list of their admissions (after the damage from being incessantly lied about was already done, of course, as always) in one speech so people could comprehend the magnitude of the left's relentless corruption, bias, and abuses of power to mislead and misinform the American people:

    Just like conservatives said from the beginning, and just like the media was caught lying and smearing President Trump as a liar for telling the truth about, we now know that:

    "-Hydroxychloroquine works

    -The Virus came from a Chinese lab

    -Hunter Biden’s laptop was real

    -Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op

    -The “Russian Bounties” story was fake

    -We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time

    -Blue state lockdowns didn’t work

    -Schools should be opened

    -Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country

    -Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful"

    Trump: Media ‘Now Admitting I Was Right About Everything They Lied About’

    Eight Anti-Trump Narratives The Media Finally Had To Admit Were False All Along



    Must be easy as Hell for Democrats to steal elections at this point with almost the entire media serving as nothing more than DNC propaganda mills; when those whose role in society it is to inform the public...instead conspire with one side to lie about the other and rig everything.

    In fact, we already know that just the media's corrupt, dishonest suppression of the bombshell Hunter Biden scandal alone altered the outcome of the election (and then there is the myriad of other ways Democrats were caught rigging and stealing the presidency)...hence, Biden should not be in office and is an illegitimate usurper who the American people never wanted or elected...all made possible by our hostile, subversive, rogue "news media" and its 24/7 war against truth, accuracy, and integrity.
    When are you ever going to sober-up????????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    Hydroxychloroquine No COVID Cure, Experts Warn - WebMDhttps://www.webmd.com › ... › Coronavirus › News
    Jul 29, 2020 — It also had a higher rate of heart and liver side effects. As for Trump's continued support for the drug, Gottlieb said those around him need to make ...
    Shut up coward you can't refute EVIDENCE!

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