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    Default Pelosi urges Senate Democrats to back voting rights bill and ‘save democracy’

    Nancy Pelosi is urging congressional Democrats not to abandon their marquee voting-rights legislation in favor of a narrower bill, as the House speaker attempts to stave off opposition to the embattled measure from members of the party in the Senate.

    Pelosi said on a caucus call on Thursday that Democrats needed to prioritize HR1 – the sweeping election reform bill known as the For the People Act – to save American democracy, according to a source familiar with the matter.



    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ing-rights-bil

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    Oh how ever did we survive as a democracy with out HR1

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Oh how ever did we survive as a democracy with out HR1
    We won't. A shame the GOP is openly subverting democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nancy Pelosi is urging congressional Democrats not to abandon their marquee voting-rights legislation in favor of a narrower bill, as the House speaker attempts to stave off opposition to the embattled measure from members of the party in the Senate.

    Pelosi said on a caucus call on Thursday that Democrats needed to prioritize HR1 – the sweeping election reform bill known as the For the People Act – to save American democracy, according to a source familiar with the matter.



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    Strictly symbolic, political, and there is nothing wrong with that, however, realistically, it ain’t going anywhere

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    Default Joe Biden’s reforming agenda at risk of dying a slow death in Congress

    “Nobody designing a democracy today would create as many veto points as we have and nobody, including the original founders, would have developed a system like the Senate filibuster where theoretically senators representing 11% of the population can veto legislation that is wildly popular.”

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    "Manchin has said instead that he would support the passage of a narrower election reform bill, the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, which would restore federal oversight over state-level election law struck down by the supreme court in 2013.

    But Pelosi noted sharply in her letter that the John Lewis bill was “not a substitute” for HR1, and stressed it would not be ready until after the summer as it undergoes intensive vetting to prepare for expected legal challenges."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    “Nobody designing a democracy today would create as many veto points as we have and nobody, including the original founders, would have developed a system like the Senate filibuster where theoretically senators representing 11% of the population can veto legislation that is wildly popular.”

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    True, but the reality is that that it is the way it is, and without a change, the rest is all just symbolic and political

    And before you go there I know, end the filibuster, I agree, but that also ain’t happening, and as bad as it is, you can’t campaign on ending the filibuster if you want to win in 2022, it’s like the Electoral College, most recognize it as bad but with the appeal to tradition, few will want to end it

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    True, but the reality is that that it is the way it is, and without a change, the rest is all just symbolic and political

    And before you go there I know, end the filibuster, I agree, but that also ain’t happening, and as bad as it is, you can’t campaign on ending the filibuster if you want to win in 2022, it’s like the Electoral College, most recognize it as bad but with the appeal to tradition, few will want to end it

    Most people are not as cynical as you. I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nancy Pelosi is urging congressional Democrats not to abandon their marquee voting-rights legislation in favor of a narrower bill, as the House speaker attempts to stave off opposition to the embattled measure from members of the party in the Senate.

    Pelosi said on a caucus call on Thursday that Democrats needed to prioritize HR1 – the sweeping election reform bill known as the For the People Act – to save American democracy, according to a source familiar with the matter.



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    SO VIOLATING THE CLEAR ELECTION LAW WORDING IN ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION IS "SAVING DEMOCRACY"?

    THE STALIN-O-CRATS ARE TRYING TO USURP THE POWERS OF THE STATES TO DECIDE THE MANNER OF THEIR ELECTIONS...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nancy Pelosi is urging congressional Democrats not to abandon their marquee voting-rights legislation in favor of a narrower bill, as the House speaker attempts to stave off opposition to the embattled measure from members of the party in the Senate.

    Pelosi said on a caucus call on Thursday that Democrats needed to prioritize HR1 – the sweeping election reform bill known as the For the People Act – to save American democracy, according to a source familiar with the matter.



    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ing-rights-bil

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    True, but the reality is that that it is the way it is, and without a change, the rest is all just symbolic and political

    And before you go there I know, end the filibuster, I agree, but that also ain’t happening, and as bad as it is, you can’t campaign on ending the filibuster if you want to win in 2022, it’s like the Electoral College, most recognize it as bad but with the appeal to tradition, few will want to end it
    Defeat for you is imminent. It is good you face reality. You are now in the acceptance stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    We won't. A shame the GOP is openly subverting democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    We won't. A shame the GOP is openly subverting democracy.
    How so???

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    EMail from Steve Schmidt:


    'We’re all getting this wrong.

    You have probably heard by now that it is very unlikely that HR1, the federal bill to protect voting rights, has any chance of passing the Senate. Joe Manchin is unwilling to get rid of the filibuster because he is still hopeful of a bipartisan solution.

    This is not to blame Joe Manchin personally. But it’s clear that he, too many of his colleagues, and too many in the media have read the situation completely wrong.

    There is no bipartisanship anymore. The GOP of old - and the idea that both parties come together and negotiate to get things done - is dead. It doesn’t exist anymore.

    Matthew Dowd called it the GOP’s “black mold problem” and made it clear: you do not negotiate with black mold. You have to rip out everything it touched and rebuild. And if you deny it exists...and breathe it in...it makes you sick.

    What we all have to realize is that we are falling into a trap. The media, Democratic leadership, former Republican leaders - we are mistakenly believing this is still a two party system, and we’re missing the point.

    Everyone is still making an assumption that there are these two parties...but that’s not the fight we’re in. There is only the Democratic Party, and on the other side is an authoritarian movement fueled by Donald Trump. That movement has grown to hold so much power in what used to be the Republican party that it has purged former leaders and left them fearful for the future.

    We have to stop them. Help us fight back.

    So when we mistakenly think “bipartisanship” is the solution, who are we negotiating with? Either those held hostage by the black mold - or the hostage takers. Neither is a tenable solution for our democracy.

    This is no longer a choice between two parties. You’re either part of the authoritarian movement and support their treasonous activities or you are against it. This is what we are tasked to do. You, me, the Lincoln Project, and every American who wants to stand up for our democracy.

    And it’s also important to remember that many of our fellow citizens have been lied to. And they believe those lies. But those people, they are not the enemy. In order to help them overcome this and wake up to what is happening, we need to offer those people the truth.

    This is no longer a political fight. It is an existential threat to the future of our democracy.

    Our role in this is simple. We need to deliver the truth to the people who have been lied to. And every time that someone uses bipartisanship as a reason to negotiate with the black mold, we have to call it out. We need to make every American realize what the stakes are not just next November, but every time someone repeats the Big Lie or cries bipartisanship.

    The truth matters.

    The more that Marjorie Taylor Green takes the mic and shows the rot in a Republican party fully co-opted by Trump, she proves it is in fact now a movement of autocrats who seek to destroy democracy.

    This is bigger than Trump. This autocratic movement will not implode while we stand by and wait. We have to take action now because it is much larger than that. If these people regain the House and the Senate, how much further do you think they’ll go?

    We have to stop the spread and we can’t do it alone. Talk to your neighbors. Reach out in your community. We have to start having these conversations before it’s too late.

    Thank you for keeping us in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    We won't. A shame the GOP is openly subverting democracy.
    Err, we are a Republic.
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