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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    what?
    no i'm talking about basic evolutionary theory that life force mutates/evolves based on successful procreation
    The theory is valid, ive just never heard it taken down to a viral level before
    RNA viruses are the easiest to prove evolution for. Their great strategy is hyper speed evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    well we are pretty sure it was created in the lab, where the genome sequences were spliced to be ultra infectious..bypassing normal times frame where it would happen in the wild.
    So maybe that manipulation also predisposed quicker mutations???? beats me ! lol
    Covid-19 is not "ultra infectious". Many diseases have an R0 several times higher. If it were made to be a super spreader, they would have gone for an R0 of above 10, not an R0 of around 2.

    There is no evidence that genes have synthetically been spliced into Covid-19. It could be, but that is not what the current evidence says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    A virologist would know bacteria are no more viruses than cats are viruses.



    RNA viruses evolve quickly, like scary quickly. A virologist would know that.. Covid-19 is evolving quickly, all around the world. For humans to be behind it, would require an organization spreading it to different hot spots.

    As for how quickly it was evolving before it was discovered, that is more difficult to tell. It appears to have been moving back and forth between humans and other species for hundreds of years, but we do not know for sure.
    there is no evidence of SARS-COVID -19 "moving back and forth" from humans to animal.
    If you have it, you should contact the NIH.

    There is no need for humans to be involved at all in mutations, the virus mutates naturally.
    There is no evidence of any animal carrying the COVID CCG-CCG codon pairing.

    all evidence points to a lab leak - once it's out it does it's own mutations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Covid-19 is not "ultra infectious". Many diseases have an R0 several times higher. If it were made to be a super spreader, they would have gone for an R0 of above 10, not an R0 of around 2.

    There is no evidence that genes have synthetically been spliced into Covid-19. It could be, but that is not what the current evidence says.
    the fact it is a novel virus before the vaccine means there was no previous antibody -so it raced around the world.

    Theeres no evidence it came naturally either;the CCG-CCG codon pairing is so unusual it's virtually ruled out
    as a natural occurring virus
    IOWs there is zero evidence it jumped species,and much that it was manipulated and leaked from a lab

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    A virus is a living organism, thus is programmed to survive and procreate. what you're implying is that an RNA virus has the ability to think that if it becomes less lethal, it will survive longer.........
    A virus is not a living organism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    How long did it take Jonas Salk to develop the polio vaccine?

    It was there that he undertook a project to determine the number of different types of poliovirus, starting in 1948. For the next seven years Salk devoted himself towards developing a vaccine against polio.
    The science today has advanced so much that if it took Salk 7 yrs to develop a vaccine, today they should have one in about 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    there is no evidence of SARS-COVID -19 "moving back and forth" from humans to animal.
    There are bits of human genetics in the Covid-19 RNA, which would imply it has been moving in and out of the human population for a few hundred years. There does appear to be some resistance to Covid-19 in Southeast Asia, almost like they have been dealing with it for generations.

    Something changed to make it much better at infecting people, but it probably has been around people for a while now.

    That being said, the evidence is not super strong.

    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    all evidence points to a lab leak
    That just is not true.

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    there is no proof whatsoever that the vaccine causes myocarditis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    the fact it is a novel virus before the vaccine means there was no previous antibody -so it raced around the world.
    It is a novel virus, so there is no record of it before. There is some evidence(the Italian study) that it existed before around the world, just not in a noticeable strain. If a strain that did not have noticeable symptoms was spreading, we would never even notice it.

    The scary thing is there are viral diseases spreading in the human population that no one is noticing, because the symptoms are extremely mild or nonexistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    There are bits of human genetics in the Covid-19 RNA, which would imply it has been moving in and out of the human population for a few hundred years. There does appear to be some resistance to Covid-19 in Southeast Asia, almost like they have been dealing with it for generations.

    Something changed to make it much better at infecting people, but it probably has been around people for a while now.

    That being said, the evidence is not super strong.



    That just is not true.
    WTF is "bits of human genetics?? LMAO

    you never cite any of your claims - hence the name Alter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
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    The scary thing is there are viral diseases spreading in the human population that no one is noticing, because the symptoms are extremely mild or nonexistent.
    then what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    WTF is "bits of human genetics?? LMAO
    Viruses insert themselves into our genes, and when they reproduce they sometimes take some of our genes with them. This leads to genes being spread between different species.

    A fair bit of the junk DNA that we have is from viruses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    then what's the problem?
    The problem is that the virus is in effect learning our immune system, and evolving around it. Then a minor genetic switch could make it symptomatic. It then is both good at spreading, and deadly... This has happened throughout history, and appears to have happened again.

    But there is a worse possibility. The spread of a presymptomatic disease (which would be effectively asymptomatic at the time of spreading) could suddenly wipe out the population. Normal containment would not work, because we already had the disease.

    That is basically the scenario of AIDS. The major symptoms did not show up until later. If it had been airborne, we would have all gotten it before anyone knew about it. It spread widely through people who had unprotected sex, or used IV drugs, but it could have spread widely among people who breath. Then a few years later, all our immune systems would start failing from "airborne AIDS."

    The Soviets developed a biological weapon that spread like a cold, but inserted poison making genetics into our cells. There would be an extremely mild cold that would sweep through the population, with most people not even noticing it. Then two weeks later, over a few days, everyone would become paralyzed and lose the ability to breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    WTF is "bits of human genetics?? LMAO

    you never cite any of your claims - hence the name Alter
    He’s talking about viruses picking up human genes and transmitting them. What he’s not telling you [because he probably doesn’t know] is that his point is meaningless because the back bone of the COVID19 virus is what makes it part of the Covid family. Probably most of all of them have human gene scraps. A Covid causes the common cold after all.

    It’s the *business end*—the spike, that was monkeyed with by the Bat Lady with some funding by US tax dollars via Fauci’s NIH.

    Ask Alter if any human genes are present in the spike proteins in COVID19.
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    you need cites..I dont disagree although i;ve never heard "taking" genetic material,, me tinks it mutates when it's exposed.
    But if you dont cite your claims I tend to disbelieve large chunks of your assertions because you never cite anyhting
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