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    Default Who had the better Socialist societal ideal?

    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

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    They will say Marx, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post


    They will say Marx, of course.
    They will have to say more than that to win the debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?
    If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.
    That isn't the question.


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    Now that I have put in my objection I shall politely move along.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?
    Nice red herring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Nice red herring.
    How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.
    Your quote: "This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Your quote: "This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board."
    Well, they are the ones that advocate for these types of societies to be formed. You'd think they could explain why they are so desirable and how they'd be better than what we've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, they are the ones that advocate for these types of societies to be formed. You'd think they could explain why they are so desirable and how they'd be better than what we've got.
    See that's a red herring fallacy. Nobody advocating for those types of societies.

    You need to quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Your quote: "This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board."
    ^Thread trolling dumb fuck doesn't know what a red herring is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.
    Dude! Try to even name a TRUE Socialist country now or in the past!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Dude! Try to even name a TRUE Socialist country now or in the past!
    You go first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You go first.
    The U.S.S.R. was about the closest country to ever being a socialist country- BUT IN FACT, WAS NOT.

    THE U.S.S.R. was in fact a Communist country. And so was the REPUBLIC OF CHINA- STILL IS IN MANY WAYS!

    North Korea is so fucked up, I'm not sure that we have a name for that type of government yet!

    Venezuela? Not sure what you call that country anymore either. BUT NOT SOCIALIST!
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