Who had the better Socialist societal ideal?

[T. A. Gardner]

This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

[Matt Dillon]

They will say Marx, of course.

[T. A. Gardner]

They will say Marx, of course.

They will have to say more than that to win the debate.

[Hawkeye10]

This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.

[Hawkeye10]

Now that I have put in my objection I shall politely move along.

[AProudLefty]

This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

Nice red herring.

[AProudLefty]

I love the Goebbels' tactics.

[Geeko Sportivo]

The answer to everything is Contortionists!



And believe me, my answer is much more intelligent than the question!

[AProudLefty]

The answer to everything is Contortionists!



And believe me, my answer is much more intelligent than the question!

I hear that red herrings are delicious!!!

[Geeko Sportivo]

I'm sorry OPie, but do try to ask a question that is not an insult to everyone's intelligence!

Here OPie- I have a question for you along the same line as your question- "Have you been an asshole- ALL YOUR LIFE"?

[AProudLefty]

I'm sorry OPie, but do try to ask a question that is not an insult to everyone's intelligence!

He cannot because he isn't intelligent.

[T. A. Gardner]

If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.

That isn't the question.

[goat]

This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

The Communist Manifesto is a critique on capitalism. The CIA steps in to quash any socialist economy with the exception of the Mondragon Corporation in the Basque region of Spain. The Basque don't have to bailout their corporation every 7 years like Americans do.

[T. A. Gardner]

Nice red herring.

How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.

[AProudLefty]

How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.

Your quote: "This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board."