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    Default Who had the better Socialist societal ideal?

    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?

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    They will say Marx, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post


    They will say Marx, of course.
    They will have to say more than that to win the debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?
    If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.
    If you are not willing to ruffle a few feathers, disturb a few minds, then you are damn near useless.

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    Now that I have put in my objection I shall politely move along.
    If you are not willing to ruffle a few feathers, disturb a few minds, then you are damn near useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?
    Nice red herring.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    I love the Goebbels' tactics.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    The answer to everything is Contortionists!



    And believe me, my answer is much more intelligent than the question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    The answer to everything is Contortionists!



    And believe me, my answer is much more intelligent than the question!
    I hear that red herrings are delicious!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    I'm sorry OPie, but do try to ask a question that is not an insult to everyone's intelligence!

    Here OPie- I have a question for you along the same line as your question- "Have you been an asshole- ALL YOUR LIFE"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I'm sorry OPie, but do try to ask a question that is not an insult to everyone's intelligence!
    He cannot because he isn't intelligent.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    If they are both fantasies which can not be real, which is what UTOPIA is by definition, I take the question as a moronic waste of time.
    That isn't the question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board. Who had the better vision of what a Socialist utopia would look like, Marx in the Communist Manifesto or Hitler in his Mein Kampf?

    Simple question, maybe or maybe not. But the question on the table is had both achieved their vision from their political 'masterpiece' who's ultimate society would have succeeded better?
    The Communist Manifesto is a critique on capitalism. The CIA steps in to quash any socialist economy with the exception of the Mondragon Corporation in the Basque region of Spain. The Basque don't have to bailout their corporation every 7 years like Americans do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Nice red herring.
    How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    How is it a "red herring?" That requires misdirection. I am asking about two (2) written volumes by two authors who both were envisioning a utopia. Choose the better one. Choose the one more likely to succeed.
    Your quote: "This is more for the Leftists and Left leaning on the board."
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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