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    Default General Patton Knew How To Win Wars

    and why wars must be won:



    Somewhere in England
    June 5th, 1944

    The big camp buzzed with a tension. For hundreds of eager rookies, newly arrived from the states, it was a great day in their lives. This day marked their first taste of the “real thing.” Now they were not merely puppets in brown uniforms. They were not going through the motions of soldiering with three thousand miles of ocean between them and English soil. They were actually in the heart of England itself. They were waiting for the arrival of that legendary figure, Lieutenant General George S. Patton Jr.—old “Blood and Guts” himself, about whom many a colorful chapter would be written for the schoolboys of tomorrow. Patton of the brisk, purposeful stride. Patton of the harsh, compelling voice, the lurid vocabulary, the grim and indomitable spirit that carried him and his Army to glory in Africa and Sicily. They called him “America’s Fightingest General.” He was no desk commando. He was the man who was sent for when the going got rough and a fighter was needed. He was the most hated and feared American of all on the part of the German Army.

    Patton was coming and the stage was being set. He would address a move which might have a far reaching effect on the global war that, at the moment, was a TOP-SECRET in the files in Washington, D.C.

    The men saw the camp turn out “en masse” for the first time and in full uniform, too. Today their marching was not lackadaisical. It was serious and the men felt the difference. From the lieutenants in charge of the companies on down in rank they felt the difference.

    In long columns they marched down the hill from the barracks. They counted cadence while marching. They turned off to the left, up the rise and so on down into the roped off field where the General was to speak. Gold braid and stripes were everywhere. Soon, company by company, the hillside was a solid mass of brown. It was a beautiful fresh English morning. The tall trees lined the road and swayed gently in the breeze. Across the field, a British farmer calmly tilled his soil. High upon a nearby hill a group of British soldiers huddled together, waiting for the coming of the General. Military Police were everywhere wearing their white leggings, belts, and helmets. They were brisk and grim. The twittering of the birds in the trees could be heard above the dull murmur of the crowd and soft, white clouds floated lazily overhead as the men settled themselves and lit cigarettes.

    On the special platform near the speakers stand, Colonels and Majors were a dime a dozen. Behind the platform stood General Patton’s “Guard of Honor”; all specially chosen men. At their right was a band playing rousing marches while the crowd waited and on the platform a nervous sergeant repeatedly tested the loudspeaker. The moment grew near and the necks began to crane to view the tiny winding road that led to Stourport-on-Severn. A captain stepped to the microphone. “When the General arrives,” he said sonorously, “the band will play the Generals March and you will all stand at attention.”

    By now the rumor had gotten around that Lieutenant General Simpson, Commanding General of the Fourth Army, was to be with General Patton. The men stirred expectantly. Two of the big boys in one day!

    At last, the long black car, shining resplendently in the bright sun, roared up the road, preceded by a jeep full of Military Police. A dead hush fell over the hillside. There he was! Impeccably dressed. With knee high, brown, gleaming boots, shiny helmet, and his Colt .45 Peacemaker swinging in its holster on his right side.

    Patton strode down the incline and then straight to the stiff backed “Guard of Honor.” He looked them up and down. He peered intently into their faces and surveyed their backs. He moved through the ranks of the statuesque band like an avenging wraith and, apparently satisfied, mounted the platform with Lieutenant General Simpson and Major General Cook, the Corps Commander, at his side.

    Major General Cook then introduced Lieutenant General Simpson, whose Army was still in America, preparing for their part in the war.

    “We are here,” said General Simpson, “to listen to the words of a great man. A man who will lead you all into whatever you may face with heroism, ability, and foresight. A man who has proven himself amid shot and shell. My greatest hope is that some day soon, I will have my own Army fighting with his, side by side.”

    General Patton arose and strode swiftly to the microphone. The men snapped to their feet and stood silently. Patton surveyed the sea of brown with a grim look. “Be seated,” he said. The words were not a request, but a command. The General’s voice rose high and clear.

    “Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn’t a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That’s why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American.”

    The General paused and looked over the crowd. “You are not all going to die,” he said slowly. “Only two percent of you right here today would die in a major battle. Death must not be feared. Death, in time, comes to all men. Yes, every man is scared in his first battle. If he says he’s not, he’s a liar. Some men are cowards but they fight the same as the brave men or they get the hell slammed out of them watching men fight who are just as scared as they are. The real hero is the man who fights even though he is scared. Some men get over their fright in a minute under fire. For some, it takes an hour. For some, it takes days. But a real man will never let his fear of death overpower his honor, his sense of duty to his country, and his innate manhood. Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best and it removes all that is base. Americans pride themselves on being He Men and they ARE He Men. Remember that the enemy is just as frightened as you are, and probably more so. They are not supermen.”

    “All through your Army careers, you men have bitched about what you call ‘chicken shit drilling.’ That, like everything else in this Army, has a definite purpose. That purpose is alertness. Alertness must be bred into every soldier. I don’t give a fuck for a man who’s not always on his toes. You men are veterans or you wouldn’t be here. You are ready for what’s to come. A man must be alert at all times if he expects to stay alive. If you’re not alert, sometime, a German son-of-an-asshole-bitch is going to sneak up behind you and beat you to death with a sockful of shit!” The men roared in agreement.

    Patton’s grim expression did not change. “There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily,” he roared into the microphone, “all because one man went to sleep on the job.” He paused and the men grew silent. “But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did.” The General clutched the microphone tightly, his jaw out-thrust, and he continued, “An Army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horse shit. The bilious bastards who write that kind of stuff for the Saturday Evening Post don’t know any more about real fighting under fire than they know about fucking!”

    The men slapped their legs and rolled in glee. This was Patton as the men had imagined him to be, and in rare form, too. He hadn’t let them down. He was all that he was cracked up to be, and more. He had IT!

    “We have the finest food, the finest equipment, the best spirit, and the best men in the world,” Patton bellowed. He lowered his head and shook it pensively. Suddenly he snapped erect, faced the men belligerently and thundered, “Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-bitches we’re going up against. By God, I do.” The men clapped and howled delightedly. There would be many a barracks tale about the “Old Man’s” choice phrases. They would become part and parcel of Third Army’s history and they would become the bible of their slang.

    “My men don’t surrender,” Patton continued, “I don’t want to hear of any soldier under my command being captured unless he has been hit. Even if you are hit, you can still fight back. That’s not just bullshit either. The kind of man that I want in my command is just like the lieutenant in Libya, who, with a Luger against his chest, jerked off his helmet, swept the gun aside with one hand, and busted the hell out of the Kraut with his helmet. Then he jumped on the gun and went out and killed another German before they knew what the hell was coming off. And, all of that time, this man had a bullet through a lung. There was a real man!”

    Patton stopped and the crowd waited. He continued more quietly, “All of the real heroes are not storybook combat fighters, either. Every single man in this Army plays a vital role. Don’t ever let up. Don’t ever think that your job is unimportant. Every man has a job to do and he must do it. Every man is a vital link in the great chain. What if every truck driver suddenly decided that he didn’t like the whine of those shells overhead, turned yellow, and jumped headlong into a ditch? The cowardly bastard could say, ‘Hell, they won’t miss me, just one man in thousands.’ But, what if every man thought that way? Where in the hell would we be now? What would our country, our loved ones, our homes, even the world, be like? No, Goddamnit, Americans don’t think like that. Every man does his job. Every man serves the whole. Every department, every unit, is important in the vast scheme of this war. The ordnance men are needed to supply the guns and machinery of war to keep us rolling. The Quartermaster is needed to bring up food and clothes because where we are going there isn’t a hell of a lot to steal. Every last man on K.P. has a job to do, even the one who heats our water to keep us from getting the ‘G.I. Shits.’”

    Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, “Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don’t want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men. One of the bravest men that I ever saw was a fellow on top of a telegraph pole in the midst of a furious fire fight in Tunisia. I stopped and asked what the hell he was doing up there at a time like that. He answered, ‘Fixing the wire, Sir.’ I asked, ‘Isn’t that a little unhealthy right about now?’ He answered, ‘Yes, Sir, but the Goddamned wire has to be fixed.’ I asked, ‘Don’t those planes strafing the road bother you?’ And he answered, ‘No, Sir, but you sure as hell do!’ Now, there was a real man. A real soldier. There was a man who devoted all he had to his duty, no matter how seemingly insignificant his duty might appear at the time, no matter how great the odds. And you should have seen those trucks on the road to Tunisia. Those drivers were magnificent. All day and all night they rolled over those son-of-a-bitching roads, never stopping, never faltering from their course, with shells bursting all around them all of the time. We got through on good old American guts. Many of those men drove for over forty consecutive hours. These men weren’t combat men, but they were soldiers with a job to do. They did it, and in one hell of a way they did it. They were part of a team. Without team effort, without them, the fight would have been lost. All of the links in the chain pulled together and the chain became unbreakable.”

    The General paused and stared challengingly over the silent ocean of men. One could have heard a pin drop anywhere on that vast hillside. The only sound was the stirring of the breeze in the leaves of the bordering trees and the busy chirping of the birds in the branches of the trees at the General’s left.

    “Don’t forget,” Patton barked, “you men don’t know that I’m here. No mention of that fact is to be made in any letters. The world is not supposed to know what the hell happened to me. I’m not supposed to be commanding this Army. I’m not even supposed to be here in England. Let the first bastards to find out be the Goddamned Germans. Some day I want to see them raise up on their piss-soaked hind legs and howl, ‘Jesus Christ, it’s the Goddamned Third Army again and that son-of-a-fucking-bitch Patton.’”

    “We want to get the hell over there,” Patton continued, “the quicker we clean up this Goddamned mess, the quicker we can take a little jaunt against the purple pissing Japs and clean out their nest, too. Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit.”

    The men roared approval and cheered delightedly. This statement had real significance behind it. Much more than met the eye and the men instinctively sensed the fact. They knew that they themselves were going to play a very great part in the making of world history. They were being told as much right now. Deep sincerity and seriousness lay behind the General’s colorful words. The men knew and understood it. They loved the way he put it, too, as only he could.

    Patton continued quietly, “Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin,” he yelled, “I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I’d shoot a snake!”




    If General Patton was alive today he would shoot that lying son-of-a-bitch in the White House.


    “When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don’t dig foxholes. I don’t want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don’t give the enemy time to dig one either. We’ll win this war, but we’ll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we’ve got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We’re not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we’re going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We’re going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You’ve got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it’s the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you’ll know what to do!”

    “I don’t want to get any messages saying, ‘I am holding my position.’ We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy’s balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!”

    “From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don’t give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that.”

    The General paused. His eagle-like eyes swept over the hillside. He said with pride, “There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON’T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, ‘Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana.’ No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, ‘Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a- Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!’”


    Speech to the Third Army
    By George S. Patton Jr.

    https://www.whatsoproudlywehail.org/...the-third-army
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    General Patton did not fight a war that would be fought today. He would very likely be clueless.

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    General Patton was a three-star.
    He was merely a tactician.
    The strategists were above him.

    This would be beyond Poppy's ability to grasp, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    General Patton was a three-star.
    He was merely a tactician.
    The strategists were above him.

    This would be beyond Poppy's ability to grasp, however.
    Right but he swore and acted tough, so the Trumptards worship him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    General Patton did not fight a war that would be fought today. He would very likely be clueless.
    To Concart: General Patton would win any war at any time. You, on the other hand, are an asshole like Biden who would surrender without firing a shot.

    This crap is how you and your kind lose wars:


    Today, the DoD is adding a new criterion to military service. Military personnel must be ‘woke—slang for being aware of social injustices. Those not deemed woke are the Left’s Mischlinge in the U.S. military. The purge of the un-woke has begun. For example:


    “A Space Force commander was reportedly relieved from his post for making comments denouncing Marxist ideology in the military. Lt Col. Matthew Lohmeier, commander of 11th Space Warning Squadron at Buckley Air Force Base Colorado, was relieved from his post Friday by Lt. Gen. Stephen Whiting, the head of Space Operations Command, according to Military.com. Whiting had lost confidence in Lohmeier’s ability to lead. The decision was made based on Lohmeier’s comments on a recent podcast. ‘Lt. Gen. Whiting has initiated a Command Directed Investigation on whether these comments constituted prohibited partisan political activity,’ a Space Force spokesperson said.” (msn.com)


    German and American Military Commit Surrender to a Political Ideology
    By Lee Cary ——Bio and Archives--June 7, 2021

    https://canadafreepress.com/article/...tical-ideology


    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    He was merely a tactician.
    To NiftyNiblick: Were you and Concart classmates at Asshole University?

    Every high-ranking military officer has to be a tactician to some degree. Planning military tactics was secondary to General Patton. He was a battlefield commander as his entire military career affirms:



    George Patton
    U.S. Gen. George Patton standing to the side of an M2 medium tank in Tunisia, 1942.
    Image: National Archives, Washington, D.C.

    https://cdn.britannica.com/67/47767-...-tank-1942.jpg

    https://www.britannica.com/biography...e-Smith-Patton
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Flanders is a poppy.
    A poppy is a pretty little flower.
    Flanders may have been short changed in the pretty department--
    I don't know--
    but as far as having a vegetative intellect level,
    that much we can see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    General Patton Knew How To Win Wars and why wars must be won
    Maybe that's why Truman couldn't allow him or MacArthur to retain command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    General Patton was a three-star.
    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Maybe that's why Truman couldn't allow him or MacArthur to retain command.
    To Legion: I do not doubt the assassination, but I cannot believe that Truman had anything to do with it. Concart please note the four stars:




    In fact, Generals Patton and MacArthur, among many others, knew that Communism had to be defeated on the battlefield. It was not done in 1946 because Democrat traitors were too well-entrenched throughout the government by the end of WWII. (Everything Patton and MacArthur said about Communism applies equally to Islam.)

    American Communists called Generals Patton and MacArthur crazy. The truth is: Those “crazy generals” understood nuclear weapons better than most. The trouble was that most politicians did not understand the political power of a nuclear arsenal along with the will to use it against an enemy. The Soviet Union would have been defeated in a year; months if Patten took advantage of the German Army. Communism would have been defeated in Europe. America could then have concentrated on defeating Communism in China’s civil war, and, by extension, Communism would have been defeated in all of Asia.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...06#post4364906

    I believe that Truman’s decision for firing MacArthur came from the New World Order crowd:


    p.s. President Truman’s stated reason for firing General MacArthur was a doublespeak masterpiece. “Limit” meant Peace Without Victory:


    In April 1951, President Truman fired MacArthur and replaced him with Gen. Matthew Ridgeway. On April 11, Truman addressed the nation and explained his actions. He began by defending his overall policy in Korea, declaring, “It is right for us to be in Korea.” He excoriated the “communists in the Kremlin [who] are engaged in a monstrous conspiracy to stamp out freedom all over the world.” Nevertheless, he explained, it “would be wrong—tragically wrong—for us to take the initiative in extending the war… Our aim is to avoid the spread of the conflict.” The president continued, “I believe that we must try to limit the war to Korea for these vital reasons: To make sure that the precious lives of our fighting men are not wasted; to see that the security of our country and the free world is not needlessly jeopardized; and to prevent a third world war.” General MacArthur had been fired “so that there would be no doubt or confusion as to the real purpose and aim of our policy.”

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...uties-in-korea


    The real reason President Truman fired General MacArthur was because Communist China was not a member of the United Nations. Mac wanted to cross the Yalu River and bomb Communist China. That would have amounted to the infant United Nations declaring war on China before the Chicoms were admitted to the U.N.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...92#post3227492
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    [B][COLOR=#ff0000]I do not doubt the assassination, but I cannot believe that Truman had anything to do with it.
    I didn't say Truman ordered anyone to be killed. I said Truman couldn't allow him or MacArthur to retain command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I said Truman couldn't allow him or MacArthur to retain command.
    To Legion: I misunderstood you. I never connected Patton to Truman. So I am not sure what Truman did to prevent Patton from retaining his command short of assassinating him.


    From Target: Patton


    . . . interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch.


    November 22, 2012
    The Mysterious Death of Gen. George S. Patton
    By Robert K. Wilcox

    http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._s_patton.html


    I thought of a “low-velocity projectile” as some kind of mechanical karate chop developed by the OSS. The attempt was a botched assassination because Patton did not die instantly.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...06#post4364906

    One question always puzzled me. Why Truman did not make FDR’s man —— Wild Bill Donovan —— the first CIA Director?


    https://www.cia.gov/legacy/museum/ar...iam-j-donovan/

    If you ask me, I would say Truman’s letter dammed Donovan with faint praise. Donovan’s OSS service alone certainly places him head and shoulders above all of the CIA Directors since 1946:


    "Wild Bill" Donovan and the Origins of the OSS
    Catoctin Mountain Park, Prince William Forest Park
    Note: This article is excerpted from OSS Training in the National Parks and Service Abroad in World War II, by John Whiteclay Chambers II.

    https://www.nps.gov/articles/wild-bi...of-the-oss.htm

    CIA Directors
    Sidney W. Souers 1946
    Hoyt S. Vandenberg
    Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter
    Walter Bedell Smith
    Allen W. Dulles
    John A. McCone
    William F. Raborn, Jr.
    Richard M. Helms
    James R. Schlesinger
    William E. Colby
    George H. W. Bush
    Stansfield Turner
    William J. Casey
    William H. Webster
    Robert M. Gates
    R. James Woolsey
    John M. Deutch
    George J. Tenet
    Porter Goss
    Michael V. Hayden
    Leon Panetta
    David Patraeus
    John Brennan
    Mike Pompeo
    Gina Haspel

    NOTE: Leon Panetta is a known Communist. John Brennan should be in jail, and he recommended Gina Haspel
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    General Patton did not fight a war that would be fought today. He would very likely be clueless.
    I doubt that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Flanders is a poppy.
    A poppy is a pretty little flower.
    Flanders may have been short changed in the pretty department--
    I don't know--
    but as far as having a vegetative intellect level,
    that much we can see.
    You got 15 rounds. What are you going to shake, motherfucker?

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