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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You are as emotional as I described. You'll write half a dozen posts in response to a single post. I like your enthusiasm, but you need to get yourself under control if you ever want to be more than an accessory to a successful man. This means use your reason as well as your emotions. Ensure that your reasoning mind both uses and controls your emotional mind.
    The reason I break my responses up into multiple ones is to prevent you and other people from avoiding the points I make.

    I think posts in the style of Arminius' are dumb and pointless, and I know that you and other bOtHsIdEriStS usually stop reading after the first couple sentences.

    So it's about managing the flow of the debate to avoid loose ends that never get addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Any. You don't believe in anything, so you don't have any convictions.

    You wouldn't even vote for Biden to prevent Trump from being President.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Well, that's not actually true, you do believe in one thing: your own narcissism.
    When you grow up, maybe you'll realize how wrong you are.

    Sweetie, all you are doing is proving you're a young, emotional hotmess. About par for Daddy's little Princess.
    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Whatever.

    But you didn't vote for Biden.

    So you couldn't even do the bare minimum.

    You needed other people to do that work for you (work = voting for Biden). That seems like a pattern with you; you make a mess, refuse to clean it up, then criticize the people who do.
    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The reason I break my responses up into multiple ones is to prevent you and other people from avoiding the points I make.

    I think posts in the style of Arminius' are dumb and pointless, and I know that you and other bOtHsIdEriStS usually stop reading after the first couple sentences.

    So it's about managing the flow of the debate to avoid loose ends that never get addressed.
    Arminius is a nutjob. You and him could be siblings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Sweetie, all you are doing is proving you're a young, emotional hotmess. About par for Daddy's little Princess.
    You couldn't even do the bare minimum in 2020 and relied on other people to do the work so you could be performative in anonymous spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Suitcases under tables?

    Bigfoot stuff.
    That particular video from security camera footage is still available for viewing, dude.
    There is also the numerous affidavits.
    There is also the changes to election law made illegally.
    There is also things like the breech in security and break in in Georgia, violating a State court order.
    There is also the probability math anomalies.
    ...and on...and on...and on.

    You can't with it away, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    All 50 states + D. C. chose and certified electors according to state law.

    Biden: 306
    Trump: 232

    Total=538 electors (all accounted for)
    Lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    You couldn't even do the bare minimum in 2020 and relied on other people to do the work so you could be performative in anonymous spaces.
    Translation: You didn't vote for Biden and now I hate you! Hate you, dammit! <stamps little princess feet firmly to convey displeasure>

    Disagreed. I vote in every election and refuse to shoot anyone who doesn't deserve it.
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    The election was not stolen, but the Repubs have not stopped trying. These crazy ninjas pretending to recount are not fooling anyone. A completely right-wing group, that leads others rightys is not looking for the truth, they are trying to create it. They work in secret and make it up as needed.
    Trump lost. He immediately went into cheat mode and it failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    You didn't vote for Biden and now I hate you! Hate you, dammit!
    I don't hate you.

    I'm just disappointed in you.

    Mostly, that disappointment is because you felt you could be performative with your 2020 vote because you knew that there were other people who were more responsible than you and would do whatever it takes to get Trump out.

    So you got the benefit of getting Trump removed without doing any work yourself.

    So young people and minorities once again had to step up because you didn't, couldn't, wouldn't, or some combination of the three.

    So yeah...I'm pretty resentful about it. Why wouldn't I be? You clearly depend on the people to whom you also condescend. But you haven't really done anything to earn that entitlement. You couldn't even be bothered to vote for Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    I don't hate you...
    Bullshit. You're a highly emotional young woman. Are you going to college? Do you want higher education?

    Emotions are part of our makeup. Logic is part of our makeup too. Anyone who only uses one or the other isn't a complete human, not "being all they can be" as the Army liked to advertise. I'm working on my empathy, but you need to work on cooling down your emotions and focus on logical solutions to our nation's problems.

    Hint: the solution is not you lying by claiming I haven't done my part because I didn't vote for the fucking Democrat on the ballot.

    Pro Tip: Acting like a LW nutjob just because this forum is full of RW nutjobs isn't a solution either. We, the People need more brave, smart, educated people to stand up and say "Enough!", not just point fingers and bitch at each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Bullshit. You're a highly emotional young woman. Are you going to college? Do you want higher education?
    I think you're intimidated by me, which is why you are trying to diminish me here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    That particular video from security camera footage is still available for viewing, dude.
    There is also the numerous affidavits.
    There is also the changes to election law made illegally.
    There is also things like the breech in security and break in in Georgia, violating a State court order.
    There is also the probability math anomalies.
    ...and on...and on...and on.

    You can't with it away, dude.
    All of which has been debunked, but if one is drunk on the Kool Aid, all the facts in the world ain’t going to make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Emotions are part of our makeup. Logic is part of our makeup too. Anyone who only uses one or the other isn't a complete human, not "being all they can be" as the Army liked to advertise. I'm working on my empathy, but you need to work on cooling down your emotions and focus on logical solutions to our nation's problems.
    There is nothing logical about anything you've said or done on JPP.

    And since you didn't want to participate in removing Trump, leaving that work to serious people, you don't really get a say in what the solutions are to the problems he caused.

    You didn't put in the work, so you don't get the reward or entitlement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Hint: the solution is not you lying by claiming I haven't done my part because I didn't vote for the fucking Democrat on the ballot.
    Voting for Biden was the bare minimum you could have done last year, and you simply couldn't rise to the occasion.

    Instead, you wanted to make a show of your posturing because you knew there were more responsible people like me who could make up for your selfish indulgence.

    Then you have the nerve to condescend to us, when we are the ones who saved you from Trump because you couldn't or wouldn't save yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Pro Tip: Acting like a LW nutjob just because this forum is full of RW nutjobs isn't a solution either. We, the People need more brave, smart, educated people to stand up and say "Enough!", not just point fingers and bitch at each other.
    Your phony bOtHsIdeRiSm does more to magnify the partisan divide than either side does on their own.

    Because you're a lazy, binary thinker, you must boil everything down to two equal sides since that's the only way your simplistic lizard brain can process anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The election was not stolen,
    You can't wish away the evidence, dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    but the Repubs have not stopped trying.
    Why should they?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    These crazy ninjas pretending to recount are not fooling anyone.
    Counting fake ballots again is pointless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    A completely right-wing group, that leads others rightys is not looking for the truth, they are trying to create it.
    You can't wish away the evidence, dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    They work in secret and make it up as needed.
    Nothing is in secret. You can still view the security camera footage. You can still read the affidavits. You can still look up the public record of laws that have been illegally changed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump lost.
    The election faulted. Trump did not lose. There effectively was no election.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He immediately went into cheat mode and it failed.
    You are describing Democrats. Election fraud by Democrats caused the election to fault.
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