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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is the heart of the matter. There is a time and place to fight city hall, but it has to be the right time and the right place.
    And it can't be "commanded" (lol!) by a painted up horned guy with a bunch of unorganized protesters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I find it very interesting that if one was to ask others why they doubt factcheckers, all they could come up with maybe one or two examples of erroneous factchecking.
    I also find it very interesting that the same people think factcheckers are too biased because their favorite RW media says so.
    It's because we live in an age of Boutique Cable News, projection and gaslighting. It's been growing since the 90s and 1/6 was an example of it peaking.

    The Billion Dollar lawsuits against Fox, Newsmax and OANN are interesting as a means to fight back against deliberate misinformation and outright lies dressed as "News".

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Most of the information presented by Fox OAN and Newsmax pretends to be news but is opinion. Opinion that appeals to a segment of society that already agrees. Opinionated presentation targets divisive issues rather than reporting or analysis. It is an internal political correctness that sees news or politics through an agreed upon lenses that is often anti-democratic, anti-science, and even anti-intelligence. These media sources pretend to be conservative they are not. They conserve nothing, they posture, dismiss, and divide.

    It is an irony that Fox has become worse in an attempt to keep OAN and Newsmax at bay. Viewers are money. Modern American so called Conservative media now vies for the ridiculous if it feeds a bias, a hate, or criticizes. Add to this the death of local media along with the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United, and the goose is cooked. Dark Money now rules.

    Add online media sources that appear in searches and news feeds. Many of these are dark money supported sites pretending to be news when they are agitprop. Political power and corporate power do not like democracy. Democracy too often muddies the water, a citizen sees the world differently than a government bureaucrat or a profit seeking corporate officer. How does that corporation control democracy, it controls the information media presents and it targets information based on the social profiles of its viewers, often white and rural. Dog whistles dominate.

    Democratic government is the favorite bogeyman of autocratic government. Lesser players in this game of deception include Breitbart, Townhall, and a host of sites that can be found in Internet searches - questionable sources are covered in links below. Online trolls have also proliferated in online social media. Some even gravitate to conspiracy sites or ideas of secession. This divisiveness takes many forms such as private schools, religious separation, and isolated rural community settings. Public education is too democratic, too open. How for instance could a pandemic become something other than a pandemic. Gaslighting from Fox ET AL have created a world of doubt. America leads the world in Covid-19 deaths, misinformation has consequences.

    So how do we understand the topic question when media is opinion, distortion, dog whistles, targeted, oppositional, using loaded words, words meant as pejorative or audience specific? Content without thought, words like 'cancel' 'woke' 'leftist' 'liberal' 'socialist' 'border' 'trans' 'guns' etcetera. What do they really mean outside the club? Their appeal is to tribe, to emotion, not content or analysis. Misinformation and distortion weaken a nation's political conversation. Ask always who benefits, what is its purpose, and is the information news or opinion. Seek sources that explain without always pointing fingers.

    Daniel Pipes wrote. "First, democracy is more than holding elections; it requires the development of civil society, meaning such complex and counter intuitive institutions as the rule of law, an independent judiciary, multiple political parties, minority rights, voluntary associations, freedom of expression, movement, and assembly. Democracy is a learned habit, not an instinctive one, that requires deep attitudinal changes such as a culture of restraint, a commonality of values, a respect for differences of view, the concept of loyal opposition, and a sense of civic responsibility."

    'The Five Biggest Threats Our Democracy Faces'

    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...emocracy-faces

    And the SCOTUS threat:

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...mp-republicans

    Information Sources to check:

    https://iffy.news/
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/
    http://politics.flackcheck.org/patterns-of-deception/

    One online news site I recommend: https://www.theguardian.com/us


    "Let us wage a moral and political war against the billionaires and corporate leaders, on Wall Street and elsewhere, whose policies and greed are destroying the middle class of America." Bernie Sanders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It's because we live in an age of Boutique Cable News, projection and gaslighting. It's been growing since the 90s and 1/6 was an example of it peaking.

    The Billion Dollar lawsuits against Fox, Newsmax and OANN are interesting as a means to fight back against deliberate misinformation and outright lies dressed as "News".

    For the serious reader and student read this history of the movement by a republican. Excellent read and it started long ago. I may quote it later.


    'It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump' by Stuart Stevens

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...-was-all-a-lie



    PS Name calling is childish and kinda stupid as post 153 demonstrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    For the serious reader and student read this history of the movement by a republican. Excellent read and it started long ago. I may quote it later.


    'It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump' by Stuart Stevens

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...-was-all-a-lie



    PS Name calling is childish and kinda stupid as post 153 demonstrates.
    Many people made predictions about all the secrets spilling out of the Trump White House once he left. That prediction is certainly coming true.

    The Truth shall set you free....but it might put some Trump fans in jail. I think Bannon's chances of prison just doubled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Many people made predictions about all the secrets spilling out of the Trump White House once he left. That prediction is certainly coming true.

    The Truth shall set you free....but it might put some Trump fans in jail. I think Bannon's chances of prison just doubled.
    Like what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    What's that?
    It’s a rule you’ve violated. Please review the rules and follow them or you will lose your APP privilege, thanks.
    "Unvaccinated people are potential variant factories," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It’s a rule you’ve violated. Please review the rules and follow them or you will lose your APP privilege, thanks.
    I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    I don't think so.
    Stay on topic and don’t use insults, thanks.
    "Unvaccinated people are potential variant factories," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Stay on topic and don’t use insults, thanks.
    Ok. Daniel pipes, quoted above, is a committed islamophobe.

    https://bridge.georgetown.edu/resear...t-daniel-pipes
    Daniel Pipes is an academic and founder of the right-wing think-tank, Middle East Forum. Pipes supports racial profiling and the surveillance of Muslim communities and believes Muslims in the United States seek to infiltrate and overthrow the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Ok. Daniel pipes, quoted above, is a committed islamophobe.

    https://bridge.georgetown.edu/resear...t-daniel-pipes
    Daniel Pipes is an academic and founder of the right-wing think-tank, Middle East Forum. Pipes supports racial profiling and the surveillance of Muslim communities and believes Muslims in the United States seek to infiltrate and overthrow the country.
    That was not the post that was deleted, it was the gay comment. Stay away from insults, talk about the topic in an adult manner, thank you.
    "Unvaccinated people are potential variant factories," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    That was not the post that was deleted, it was the gay comment. Stay away from insults, talk about the topic in an adult manner, thank you.
    Daniel Pipes, the expert of hate
    Omnipresent expert in television studios and regular commentator of American mainstream newspapers, Daniel Pipes has become the world theorist of the Islamphobia. The son of Richard Pipes, the Sovietologist that resumed the arms race during the Ford Administration, and spiritual son of Robert Strausz-Hupé, the visionary of the new world order, Daniel Pipes, directs a lot of strategic institutes. He is the founder of currently common concepts such as «new anti-Semitism», «militants of Islam» and «conspiracy theories». An advocate of the annihilation of Palestinians, he has been appointed by George W. Bush director of the US Institute of Peace.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article136260.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Many people made predictions about all the secrets spilling out of the Trump White House once he left. That prediction is certainly coming true.

    The Truth shall set you free....but it might put some Trump fans in jail. I think Bannon's chances of prison just doubled.
    What secrets? from the disgruntled niece whose Dad was ousted from the family? LOL Trump is an Angel compared to the Clintons

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    What secrets? from the disgruntled niece whose Dad was ousted from the family? LOL Trump is an Angel compared to the Clintons
    Jesus, kid. I really do hope you are under 25. At least that would excuse your ignorance.

    OTOH, if you are in your 30s, you should give up any ideas of making it in management.

    These books were from before the election. There's a slew of them coming out. Trump's legacy will last a long time....like Benedict Arnold's.

    11 Trump books that offer a peek inside the White House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Jesus, kid. I really do hope you are under 25. At least that would excuse your ignorance.

    OTOH, if you are in your 30s, you should give up any ideas of making it in management.

    These books were from before the election. There's a slew of them coming out. Trump's legacy will last a long time....like Benedict Arnold's.

    11 Trump books that offer a peek inside the White House
    books, you mean someone's opinion LOLyou better see your steward soon so he can tell you what to think

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