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Thread: The Clinton-Epstein-Maxwell-Trump Connection

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    Default The Clinton-Epstein-Maxwell-Trump Connection

    Anyone who has ever read the tabloids know rich and famous people do things that are stupid, illegal and/or lacking in morality. The Clintons and the Trumps are no different. Over the past four years revelations have come to light about the relationships of both the Clintons and the Trumps with sex traffickers and pedophiles Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

    Epstein, in a wild coincidence of factors, was allowed to commit "suicide" in a New York prison. Maxwell's fate is undetermined (trial JUL21). I doubt the American public will be hearing much about the sexual escapades and crimes of either the Clintons or the Trumps anytime soon much less will their victims see justice.

    Yes, there will be rumors and reports, but nothing will be done about it because too many people support "special rules for special people".


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...h=3029ef604854
    KEY FACTS
    • Maxwell was on the guest list for a dinner at vegan hotspot Crossroads Kitchen on February 27, 2014, according to the Beast, along with tech CEO Scott Borgerson, Maxwell’s reported boyfriend at the time.
    • Democratic donor and Clinton friend Steve Bing—who died by suicide earlier in 2020—was also in attendance, according to the Beast, along with former Clinton staffers who reportedly said they hadn’t met Maxwell or had no recollection of her at the dinner.
    • Clinton’s team argued over whether to extend an invitation to Maxwell, the Beast reported, citing unnamed sources, because at the time, at least one alleged victim had accused Maxwell of recruiting underage girls for Epstein’s sex ring.
    • Maxwell had reportedly been cut out of Clinton’s social circle in 2011, according to the report, but was somehow reinstated by 2014, when deputy chief of staff Jon Davidson supposedly organized the dinner....



    ...Questions have swirled around Clinton’s connection to Epstein since the disgraced financier was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges in July 2019. Those questions intensified after Epstein died of suicide in a Manhattan lockup one month later. In a 2019 statement, Clinton told Forbes he “knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago,” in reference to Epstein’s much-maligned 2008 plea deal brokered by former Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, who was a U.S. attorney at the time. Clinton also said in his statement he was never at Epstein’s private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, although court records released July 31 from a settled defamation lawsuit between Maxwell and alleged victim Virginia Giuffre say Maxwell flew on a helicopter with Clinton to the island. And, on August 18, British tabloid The Daily Mail published photos of Clinton appearing to receive a neck massage from alleged Epstein victim Chauntae Davies in 2002, who was 22 at the time. The photos appeared just hours before Clinton’s speech at the Democratic National Convention, raising eyebrows as to the timing of their release. Maxwell has been held in a Brooklyn federal prison since her July arrest on charges of enticing and transporting minors as part of Epstein’s alleged sex ring and committing perjury during her 2016 depositions that are part of the Giuffre defamation case. Maxwell entered a not guilty plea, and her trial is slated to begin in July 2021...


    ...President Trump socialized with Epstein in the 1990s and early 2000s, although he quickly distanced himself following Epstein’s 2019 arrest. Trump had kinder words for Maxwell after she was arrested and charged this year, saying “I wish her well” during a July 22 White House press conference.
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    I find it weird that you can't fuck at 17 and a half, but one day after you turn 18, you can fuck 10 guys at the same time, be filmed while you're doing it, and get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I find it weird that you can't fuck at 17 and a half, but one day after you turn 18, you can fuck 10 guys at the same time, be filmed while you're doing it, and get paid.
    The law is funny that way. Do you want to do like Pelosi suggested and may everyone 16 and older a full-fledged citizen? Drive, draft, emancipation, etc?
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    When was the last year Trump would take a call from Epstein?

    That is the problem with this thread....it is fundamentally dishonest....Trump is being denied earned credit yet again.
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    I thought this was about a few partial differential equations. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The law is funny that way. Do you want to do like Pelosi suggested and may everyone 16 and older a full-fledged citizen? Drive, draft, emancipation, etc?
    I think you're a Citizen the day you are born. (?)

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    Congratulations, Oom,
    on attaining your goal to be just another regular "person" [as defined by Texas standards].
    The general public is graced by your participation.

    Nothing special about you.
    But the question is this:

    In what manner of debauchery would you engage if you could actually afford it?

    I don't pretend to know, and frankly, I don't even care.
    You started the poll.

    Still, you might think about it.
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    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I thought this was about a few partial differential equations. My bad.
    I think Dutch is hinting at 'Virginity Tests'.

    Probably some deputized woman from the local Church or Mosque examining girls under 18 to see if they have violated the Criminal Code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I thought this was about a few partial differential equations. My bad.
    There's definitely some equations. Most of it is calculated in dollars. Specifically campaign contributions.

    It's not a coincidence Bill renewed his friendship with his old party pals. He was obviously warming up a network of contributors for Hillary's 2016 campaign. All those rich NY pedos and their rich friends would come in handy during election season.

    It worked too since Hillary spent hundreds of millions from her own campaign funds and the PACs spent hundreds of millions more.
    It really is all about the Benjamins.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...e?id=N00000019

    https://www.opensecrets.org/outsides...&disp=O&type=S
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I think Dutch is hinting at 'Virginity Tests'.

    Probably some deputized woman from the local Church or Mosque examining girls under 18 to see if they have violated the Criminal Code.
    Weird guess, Jack.

    I've only been with two virgins and ended up liking older women more. Amateurs are too much work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Anyone who has ever read the tabloids know rich and famous people do things that are stupid, illegal and/or lacking in morality. The Clintons and the Trumps are no different. Over the past four years revelations have come to light about the relationships of both the Clintons and the Trumps with sex traffickers and pedophiles Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

    Epstein, in a wild coincidence of factors, was allowed to commit "suicide" in a New York prison. Maxwell's fate is undetermined (trial JUL21). I doubt the American public will be hearing much about the sexual escapades and crimes of either the Clintons or the Trumps anytime soon much less will their victims see justice.

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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette...h=3029ef604854
    KEY FACTS
    • Maxwell was on the guest list for a dinner at vegan hotspot Crossroads Kitchen on February 27, 2014, according to the Beast, along with tech CEO Scott Borgerson, Maxwell’s reported boyfriend at the time.
    • Democratic donor and Clinton friend Steve Bing—who died by suicide earlier in 2020—was also in attendance, according to the Beast, along with former Clinton staffers who reportedly said they hadn’t met Maxwell or had no recollection of her at the dinner.
    • Clinton’s team argued over whether to extend an invitation to Maxwell, the Beast reported, citing unnamed sources, because at the time, at least one alleged victim had accused Maxwell of recruiting underage girls for Epstein’s sex ring.
    • Maxwell had reportedly been cut out of Clinton’s social circle in 2011, according to the report, but was somehow reinstated by 2014, when deputy chief of staff Jon Davidson supposedly organized the dinner....



    ...Questions have swirled around Clinton’s connection to Epstein since the disgraced financier was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges in July 2019. Those questions intensified after Epstein died of suicide in a Manhattan lockup one month later. In a 2019 statement, Clinton told Forbes he “knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago,” in reference to Epstein’s much-maligned 2008 plea deal brokered by former Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta, who was a U.S. attorney at the time. Clinton also said in his statement he was never at Epstein’s private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, although court records released July 31 from a settled defamation lawsuit between Maxwell and alleged victim Virginia Giuffre say Maxwell flew on a helicopter with Clinton to the island. And, on August 18, British tabloid The Daily Mail published photos of Clinton appearing to receive a neck massage from alleged Epstein victim Chauntae Davies in 2002, who was 22 at the time. The photos appeared just hours before Clinton’s speech at the Democratic National Convention, raising eyebrows as to the timing of their release. Maxwell has been held in a Brooklyn federal prison since her July arrest on charges of enticing and transporting minors as part of Epstein’s alleged sex ring and committing perjury during her 2016 depositions that are part of the Giuffre defamation case. Maxwell entered a not guilty plea, and her trial is slated to begin in July 2021...


    ...President Trump socialized with Epstein in the 1990s and early 2000s, although he quickly distanced himself following Epstein’s 2019 arrest. Trump had kinder words for Maxwell after she was arrested and charged this year, saying “I wish her well” during a July 22 White House press conference.
    Don't forget Bill Gates.
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    Epstein was extremely well connected right up to the end, but not with Trump.
    The bottom line is that conservatives cant admit to themselves the Evil they have allowed to romp on their watch.

    This is going to hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Don't forget Bill Gates.
    QED. Exactly. The rich and famous are often corrupted by their access to any Earthly pleasure. Some never recover. Some go too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Epstein was extremely well connected right up to the end, but not with Trump.
    Not after Trump broke with Epstein but in the 90s and early 2000s, Trump was partied like it was 1999 with whatever Epstein was offering. LOL
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