Would you rather live in a Socialist country or an Authoritarian country?

[Joe Capitalist]

No - Animal Farm is essentially about the way Stalinism sold its capitalist system as socialist: having worked for Churchill throughout the War, Orwell fell for the same propaganda as you do. He'd gone to Eton, after all. Being Christian means living according to what Jesus said. You'll find it in the New Testament, if they allow it to be read over there. I want, like all socialists, to eliminate the boss class, introducing it to honest work. I call you a peasant because, like most peasants, you do whatever your masters tell you, peasant.

[BattleofHodow]

No - Animal Farm is essentially about the way Stalinism sold its capitalist system as socialist: having worked for Churchill throughout the War, Orwell fell for the same propaganda as you do. He'd gone to Eton, after all. Being Christian means living according to what Jesus said. You'll find it in the New Testament, if they allow it to be read over there. I want, like all socialists, to eliminate the boss class, introducing it to honest work. I call you a peasant because, like most peasants, you do whatever your masters tell you, peasant.

Socialism by true definition will never be achieved.

A classless & commerce free society can only be achieved with an iron fist.

Because class & commerce are natural.

It takes an iron fist to go against nature.

[Bigdog]

No - Animal Farm is essentially about the way Stalinism sold its capitalist system as socialist: having worked for Churchill throughout the War, Orwell fell for the same propaganda as you do. He'd gone to Eton, after all. Being Christian means living according to what Jesus said. You'll find it in the New Testament, if they allow it to be read over there. I want, like all socialists, to eliminate the boss class, introducing it to honest work. I call you a peasant because, like most peasants, you do whatever your masters tell you, peasant.

You want to BE the "boss class" and tell everyone else what to do. Your nazi ass wants to be dictator and king.

The Russian Workers Socialist Union was socialist, not capitalist. You're a lying dupe.

You call me a Peasant because you believe in a two class system in which you are the elite.

Your utopian socialist bullshit of All chiefs and no Indians has never been successful, you fucking Nazi socialist authoritarian bastard.

No one is as perfect as Christ, dipshit. And your socialist atheism has never ever produced a successful civilization.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Socialism by true definition will never be achieved.

A classless & commerce free society can only be achieved with an iron fist.

Because class & commerce are natural.

It takes an iron fist to go against nature.

If class and commerce are natural, why did humanity live most of its existence without either?

[Iolo/Penderyn]

You want to BE the "boss class" and tell everyone else what to do. Your nazi ass wants to be dictator and king.

The Russian Workers Socialist Union was socialist, not capitalist. You're a lying dupe.

You call me a Peasant because you believe in a two class system in which you are the elite.

Your utopian socialist bullshit of All chiefs and no Indians has never been successful, you fucking Nazi socialist authoritarian bastard.

No one is as perfect as Christ, dipshit. And your socialist atheism has never ever produced a successful civilization.

You're brainwashed out of whatever tiny mind you were ever allowed to have, peasant. Go away, learn to read, and read some Marx. After that come back and discuss matters you've never been allowed to think about. You could try some Russian history after that. The Revolution was made by a tiny working class led by a minority (and semi-conspiratorial) revolutionary party in a peasant country. The government it established was immediately attacked by eigthteen capitalist armies. The revolutionary government managed to win the war, but by then the workers had gone back to the villages, leaving the revolutionaries to form a new boss class in order to survive. End of story.

[danielpalos]

Government is socialism (social-ism). Authority is built-into our federal Constitution. There is nothing ambiguous or unclear about our federal doctrine.

[BattleofHodow]

If class and commerce are natural, why did humanity live most of its existence without either?

Trade & barter is a commerce prototype.

Class even exists in the Animal Kingdom.

The Agriculture revolution & Industrial Revolution made class & commerce very prominent, true.

But, why do you want to go back to a Hunter Gatherer society?

[BattleofHodow]

You're brainwashed out of whatever tiny mind you were ever allowed to have, peasant. Go away, learn to read, and read some Marx. After that come back and discuss matters you've never been allowed to think about. You could try some Russian history after that. The Revolution was made by a tiny working class led by a minority (and semi-conspiratorial) revolutionary party in a peasant country. The government it established was immediately attacked by eigthteen capitalist armies. The revolutionary government managed to win the war, but by then the workers had gone back to the villages, leaving the revolutionaries to form a new boss class in order to survive. End of story.

While Soviet Communism improved the condition beyond Tsarist serfdom & illiteracy.

It never worked as intended.

Ultimately the USSR failed.

Why do you want to try it again?

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Trade & barter is a commerce prototype.

Class even exists in the Animal Kingdom.

The Agriculture revolution & Industrial Revolution made class & commerce very prominent, true.

But, why do you want to go back to a Hunter Gatherer society?

'Class' can mean all sorts of things, but economically it means the death of humanity. You don't have to go back to socialism: you just take control.

[Iolo/Penderyn]

While Soviet Communism improved the condition beyond Tsarist serfdom & illiteracy.

It never worked as intended.

Ultimately the USSR failed.

Why do you want to try it again?

I don't want to impose anything - I just want the majority to take over and establish a democratic world that can survive.

[NiftyNiblick]

One is economic and the other is politcal.

Would you rather scratch your watch or wind your ass?

[BattleofHodow]

'Class' can mean all sorts of things, but economically it means the death of humanity. You don't have to go back to socialism: you just take control.

The Human condition improved with the rise of class.

Globalism is now causing the West to fall backwards.

Globalism are Leftist Capitalists & Communists are Leftist Socialists.

Both cause despair for us.

We need Nationalism to combat Leftist savages.

[Joe Capitalist]

One is economic and the other is politcal.

Would you rather scratch your watch or wind your ass?

Not always economic or political. They could be defined differently.

[NiftyNiblick]

The Human condition improved with the rise of class.

Globalism is now causing the West to fall backwards.

Globalism are Leftist Capitalists & Communists are Leftist Socialists.

Both cause despair for us.

We need Nationalism to combat Leftist savages.

Is this the souce of the expression, "Dumb Polack?"

[BattleofHodow]

I don't want to impose anything - I just want the majority to take over and establish a democratic world that can survive.

How will the majority take over?