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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Did Winston have private property rights?
    No but he did find a secret place where he could fuck that pretty lady.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Nah, he'll be right there, willing to give his spleen right now because he signed a card. "Here's my papers, sir!" He'll say as he proves to his beloved government and the super desirable government tracking program that HE at least is perfectly capable of carrying the right papers at all times and that super benevolent Federal government programs deserve his immediate and prolific obedience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Socialism would mean the end of free enterprise, the confiscation of all businesses including restaurants, bars, hair salons, rental properties, commercial prperties, farms and ranches, ... and the forcing of all licensed professionals such as doctors and electricians to become employees of the State, ... but they can keep their toothbrushes.
    That is a bit of a stretch. Socialism primarily refers to the production and distribution of goods and generally applies to public ownership of major industries. Even communist nations allow private ownership of small businesses. Marxist theory has often proved unsuccessful and in practice we see countries like China allowing more private ownership of a share of the state owned enterprises. With Raul gone even Cuba is opening up to more small business enterprises. China is encouraging doctors to open their own private clinics and hospitals.

    I am just attempting an objective description of reality. We both know the state will never wither away and there are many variations among nations calling themselves communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is a bit of a stretch. Socialism primarily refers to the production and distribution of goods and generally applies to public ownership of major industries. Even communist nations allow private ownership of small businesses. Marxist theory has often proved unsuccessful and in practice we see countries like China allowing more private ownership of a share of the state owned enterprises. With Raul gone even Cuba is opening up to more small business enterprises. China is encouraging doctors to open their own private clinics and hospitals.

    I am just attempting an objective description of reality. We both know the state will never wither away and there are many variations among nations calling themselves communist.
    As you know, neither China, Cuba nor North Korea have a free press.

    And those changes you describe are capitalist, not socialist, so they are not a rebuttal of the definition of socialisms. "Distribution" includes retail outlets. And "public ownership", in reality, means State ownership.

    The State did wither away in Somalia.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    “Unidentified stormtroopers. ”

    — Nancy Pelosi on U.S. National Guardsmen and women.

    “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”

    - Sen. Schumer, describing his fear of the IC

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    No
    Right, and IngSoc stood for English Socialism, a one party rule of a totalitarian State.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    “Unidentified stormtroopers. ”

    — Nancy Pelosi on U.S. National Guardsmen and women.

    “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”

    - Sen. Schumer, describing his fear of the IC

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Right, and IngSoc stood for English Socialism, a one party rule of a totalitarian State.
    What cannot be arbitrated by debate is wanting different things, 'dog.

    When half the people want to live one way and half the people want to live another way,
    neither "right" nor "wrong" is involved in the equation.

    The choice is to stay together and live with half of the population in a state of perpetual rage,
    or splitting up so that each side can have the nation that it wants.

    You can regale us with uniformed definitions of government types,
    but in the end, those don't really matter.

    It's nice to use words correctly if we're going to use them,
    but until we each admit that there are a whole lot of people on the other side
    who find paradigms that we accept to be totally unacceptable,
    we're not going to even approach anything resembling solutions.

    The right is more at fault than the left in this regard.
    Many small town conservatives don't get around very much
    and can't imagine how many people live in the nation's major urban cultural centers.

    They believe that they're some kind of "moral majority,"
    but as the popular vote reveals in the national elections,
    they're actually a minority.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    As you know, neither China, Cuba nor North Korea have a free press.

    And those changes you describe are capitalist, not socialist, so they are not a rebuttal of the definition of socialisms. "Distribution" includes retail outlets. And "public ownership", in reality, means State ownership.

    The State did wither away in Somalia.
    They were not meant to be a rebuttal but to show what nations do in practice is not necessarily consistent with the economic philosophy they pretend to follow. It also shows any increased success of their economies is due to following more of a market economy with more private ownership. Distribution may mean retail outlets but many of those retail outlets are not state owned. For example, Alibaba is a private, for profit, company. Competition among different state owned enterprises creates a type of market economy. Locally owned businesses are pushed to make more profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Many multi nationals will sell out to the highest gov't bidder.

    NBA, Google, and Disney are huge supporters of Socialist China, the worst polluter and one of the worst human rights violators. And the Democrats luv this.
    many governments are completely corporately controlled too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Total nonsense.
    Palestinians are one group.
    Neo Nazis are another group.
    Liberals are another group still.
    And brain-dead mutants who find Rush Limbaugh and Martin Luther King to be interchangeable are yet another group altogether.
    [Especially if they also equate socialism and monarchy.]

    The internet should be nothing but search engines and commercial websites.
    JPP proves that every single day.
    spoken like a true fascist. you're a sickening anti-human trainwreck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    They were not meant to be a rebuttal but to show what nations do in practice is not necessarily consistent with the economic philosophy they pretend to follow. It also shows any increased success of their economies is due to following more of a market economy with more private ownership. Distribution may mean retail outlets but many of those retail outlets are not state owned. For example, Alibaba is a private, for profit, company. Competition among different state owned enterprises creates a type of market economy. Locally owned businesses are pushed to make more profit.
    you're truly fascist.

    "locally owned businesses are pushed to make more profit." lol.

    ..... but mostly they die off quickly.
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    "a type of market economy". lol. a highly fascist cartel pseudomarket.
    Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. --AssHatZombie

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're truly fascist.

    "locally owned businesses are pushed to make more profit." lol.

    ..... but mostly they die off quickly.
    I just described reality. These have nothing to do with my views. Calling me a fascist is a silly assumption completely unrelated to anything I posted.

    Doing some reading about China's economy would help your knowledge. Many of China's state-owned businesses are owned by local provinces and they push those businesses for more revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I just described reality. These have nothing to do with my views. Calling me a fascist is a silly assumption completely unrelated to anything I posted.

    Doing some reading about China's economy would help your knowledge. Many of China's state-owned businesses are owned by local provinces and they push those businesses for more revenue.
    fascism describes it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    fascism describes it well.
    communism is not fascism. you can't lump all authoritarian governments into one category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    communism is not fascism. you can't lump all authoritarian governments into one category.
    when it's so significantly involved with corporations and pro corporate agendas, yes it is.
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    when biden calls ceos the fourth branch of government, that's fascism.

    corporations are not people.
    Morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships. --AssHatZombie

    Obamagate is Operation Crossfire Hurricane

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