Dying with Covid

[Darth Omar]

First off, 223 deaths out of millions vaccinated isn’t a bad statistic. My guess is that by and large the victims had some serious comorbid factors. Or that they just happened to die of something else while being infected.

But the dying with vs dying from Covid controversy is back. Except this time it’s being invoked by the vaccine passport crowd. Team Reality spent the better part of a year pointing out how the ‘dying with’ category was artificially inflating the Covid mortality statistics.

But now that the Bad Orange Man is out of the way and they no longer need inflated death statistics for political purposes—we find out that Team Reality had a legitimate criticism all along.

Well, how about them apples.

[Walt]

artificially inflating the Covid mortality statistics.

Excess deaths in the USA is 597,490, which is higher than the number most often given of Covid-19 deaths of 558,060. That would indicate that the number is an underestimate. Especially, when you throw in the lower number of deaths caused by influenza and other contagious diseases caused by social distancing. There are countries with negative excess deaths, like Taiwan.

Taiwan has 10 deaths officially from Covid-19, but negative 5,880 excess deaths. Because we know that Covid-19 cannot give people life, we know the negative excess deaths is due to social distancing. We have saved lives with social distancing too. So the actual number of Covid-19 deaths must be above the excess deaths.

[Darth Omar]

Excess deaths in the USA is 597,490, which is higher than the number most often given of Covid-19 deaths of 558,060. That would indicate that the number is an underestimate. Especially, when you throw in the lower number of deaths caused by influenza and other contagious diseases caused by social distancing. There are countries with negative excess deaths, like Taiwan.

Taiwan has 10 deaths officially from Covid-19, but negative 5,880 excess deaths. Because we know that Covid-19 cannot give people life, we know the negative excess deaths is due to social distancing. We have saved lives with social distancing too. So the actual number of Covid-19 deaths must be above the excess deaths.

Opioid and other drug induced deaths; deaths due to delayed medical treatments; murder. Let’s get the excess death numbers in those and similar categories—then we’ll talk about how many of the total excess deaths were due to the CCP Virus.

Also, which way does it go regarding dying with vs dying from Covid? It seems ‘a little convenient’ that the dying with category gets removed from the total when vaccines are at issue.

[Yakuda]

Excess deaths in the USA is 597,490, which is higher than the number most often given of Covid-19 deaths of 558,060. That would indicate that the number is an underestimate. Especially, when you throw in the lower number of deaths caused by influenza and other contagious diseases caused by social distancing. There are countries with negative excess deaths, like Taiwan.

Taiwan has 10 deaths officially from Covid-19, but negative 5,880 excess deaths. Because we know that Covid-19 cannot give people life, we know the negative excess deaths is due to social distancing. We have saved lives with social distancing too. So the actual number of Covid-19 deaths must be above the excess deaths.

Bullshit. All those numbers are inflated and you know it.

[Walt]

Bullshit. All those numbers are inflated and you know it.

You need them to be massively inflated, or your entire ideology falls apart. The problem is facts should inform ideology rather than the reverse.

Numbers should not be used like a drunk uses a light poll. A drunk uses a light poll for support, while the rest of us use a light poll for illumination.

[Yakuda]

You need them to be massively inflated, or your entire ideology falls apart. The problem is facts should inform ideology rather than the reverse.

Numbers should not be used like a drunk uses a light poll. A drunk uses a light poll for support, while the rest of us use a light poll for illumination.

The imbecile you elected prefers truth to facts so you need a new talking point.

The left is changing the narrative with regards to the numbers. You fucking retards have been scaring people by telling people millions will die. It was all bullshit from the start. Now your forcing a vaccine on people based solely on fear and no facts.

[Darth Omar]

The imbecile you elected prefers truth to facts so you need a new talking point.

The left is changing the narrative with regards to the numbers. You fucking retards have been scaring people by telling people millions will die. It was all bullshit from the start. Now your forcing a vaccine on people based solely on fear and no facts.

The other day Fauci and/or the head of the CDC said only a little over 50% of the agency’s employees are taking the jab.

[Darth Omar]

The imbecile you elected prefers truth to facts so you need a new talking point.

The left is changing the narrative with regards to the numbers. You fucking retards have been scaring people by telling people millions will die. It was all bullshit from the start. Now your forcing a vaccine on people based solely on fear and no facts.

Wasn’t it a month ago the CDC head said we’re perched on a cliff or something lol?

As I said on another thread, unless the case numbers come back, every week that goes by is going to make it harder and harder to jam vaccine passports down the country’s throat. Same goes for school vaccinations.

Well, they can try it but there will be a rebellion. And, the political fallout will be considerable.

[Walt]

The imbecile you elected prefers truth to facts so you need a new talking point.

The left is changing the narrative with regards to the numbers. You fucking retards have been scaring people by telling people millions will die. It was all bullshit from the start. Now your forcing a vaccine on people based solely on fear and no facts.

There have been about 10 million deaths worldwide from Covid-19. I will be relieved if there are "only" 10 million more, even without the long Covid that will be effecting us for decades to come.

I would love to say Biden solved all our problems, but there are some real bad signs hitting us. Covid-19 will [most likely] be a tough nut to crack. Maybe we will get lucky, but I have not seen much luck from Covid-19.

[domer76]

The imbecile you elected prefers truth to facts so you need a new talking point.

The left is changing the narrative with regards to the numbers. You fucking retards have been scaring people by telling people millions will die. It was all bullshit from the start. Now your forcing a vaccine on people based solely on fear and no facts.

Yeah, only 2/3 of a million have died. Thank goodness for mask mandates, social isolation, shutdowns and vaccines, huh? Otherwise, the millions are a reality.

[Legion]

Numbers should not be used like a drunk uses a light poll. A drunk uses a light poll for support, while the rest of us use a light poll for illumination.

Unintentionally hilarious.

[NiftyNiblick]

Unintentionally hilarious.

Salty isn't discussing stanchions, Lesion.

Salty is very clearly contrasting Polish people [Poles] with opinion and vote gathering [polls].

The mistake of which you seem to be accusing Salty is exactly the type of mistake that you'd be likely to make.

[Micawber]

You need them to be massively inflated, or your entire ideology falls apart. The problem is facts should inform ideology rather than the reverse.

Numbers should not be used like a drunk uses a light poll. A drunk uses a light poll for support, while the rest of us use a light poll for illumination.

You give them way too much credit, most of them use light polls for licking in freezing weather.

[moon]

Thank you, Doctor 61.



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[Son of the Revolution]

Thank you, Doctor 61.



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Poor Moon the loser in life liberal retard