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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I don't think he really thinks that's what he said......
    I don't think he really thinks. He also can't spell "really".

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I don't think he really thinks that's what he said......
    Yeah, I do. He's a liberal...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    I don't think he really thinks. He also can't spell "really".
    or therefor.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    or therefor.....
    He wants to know "why can't the federal government do something directly useful and distribute to the masses a flashcard containing programs to block ransom ware?"

    He thinks it's" Better than a bunch of private companies selling half assed products for an inflated price while competing against each other."

    Does that look like a free market economy to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I ask myself the same question........so they come up against a foreign bank that refuses to release the identity of the hackers who own the account the money went in to..........obviously we say to the bank, "we regret to inform you that you may no longer receive money transfers into or out of the US"......and then we say to the bank "I'm sorry, what do you mean that all of your deposits seem to no longer exist. Yes, we realize that all that money now seems to belong to us, but we have no idea how that happened and aren't really that interested in finding out. Have a good day,"........hopefully every other country in the world does the same.....how long before this is no longer a problem?......
    But I'm not dealing in your foreign scenario. I'm dealing with domestic issues. With regards to the recent gasoline pipeline incident, I think the OP has merit.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Yeah, I do. He's a liberal...
    Elucidate, son! Stop dithering with jackasses who dance over typos. If you can't or won't answer the question, then don't waste time and space trying to play "got'cha" for the peanut gallery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Here's the thing: the NSA, CIA, FBI and Lord knows how many other alphabet security and law enforcement agencies have access to some of the most powerful and sophisticated computers in the world. They can hand me a book detailing my life from cradle to grave, listing friends, family, phone calls, net sites visited, school records medical records, etc.

    And yet this "ransom ware" seems to be the unbeatable software program that can bring the country to it's knees

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/securit...icial-n1267286

    So why can't the federal government do something directly useful and distribute to the masses a flashcard containing programs to block ransom ware? Better than a bunch of private companies selling half assed products for an inflated price while competing against each other. Just saying.
    Sure we have, hard to believe that this one was a sole effort, surely everyday numerous similarly attempts are made, but it has to be like stopping water from running down hill, always seems to find a way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Here's the thing: the NSA, CIA, FBI and Lord knows how many other alphabet security and law enforcement agencies have access to some of the most powerful and sophisticated computers in the world. They can hand me a book detailing my life from cradle to grave, listing friends, family, phone calls, net sites visited, school records medical records, etc.

    And yet this "ransom ware" seems to be the unbeatable software program that can bring the country to it's knees

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/securit...icial-n1267286

    So why can't the federal government do something directly useful and distribute to the masses a flashcard containing programs to block ransom ware? Better than a bunch of private companies selling half assed products for an inflated price while competing against each other. Just saying.
    all of those high powered and sophisticated computers are controlled by something the government has no real control over........intelligent human beings. those ransomware programs are written by people that are apparently smarter than the ones the government have working for them.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I ask myself the same question........so they come up against a foreign bank that refuses to release the identity of the hackers who own the account the money went in to..........obviously we say to the bank, "we regret to inform you that you may no longer receive money transfers into or out of the US"......and then we say to the bank "I'm sorry, what do you mean that all of your deposits seem to no longer exist. Yes, we realize that all that money now seems to belong to us, but we have no idea how that happened and aren't really that interested in finding out. Have a good day,"........hopefully every other country in the world does the same.....how long before this is no longer a problem?......
    are you saying that the US could simply abscond with money from a foreign bank and then pretend like they don't know what happened or where it went, if it even existed?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Sure we have, hard to believe that this one was a sole effort, surely everyday numerous similarly attempts are made, but it has to be like stopping water from running down hill, always seems to find a way
    For years we've had private companies produce prevention software, but that's just a temporary fix. You never hear about the lengendary Cray computers used by the NSA being hacked or held for ransom. Hell, they along with the CIA worked YEARS to screw up Iran's nuke program via computer. All I'm saying is they should put that knowledge in the hands of all crucial national infrastructure. Hell, they should have been doing that since 9-11!
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    But I'm not dealing in your foreign scenario. I'm dealing with domestic issues. With regards to the recent gasoline pipeline incident, I think the OP has merit.
    ????....you think the $5m paid to the Russian hackers was deposited in a domestic bank?......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    are you saying that the US could simply abscond with money from a foreign bank and then pretend like they don't know what happened or where it went, if it even existed?
    if its a foreign bank hiding the deposits of criminals I not only suggest it, I demand it.....
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    if its a foreign bank hiding the deposits of criminals I not only suggest it, I demand it.....
    I'm curious, then, would you feel the same way if a foreign country demanded the names of people who hacked in to their countries national assets, then absconded money out of US banks with the same reasoning and excuses?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    For years we've had private companies produce prevention software, but that's just a temporary fix. You never hear about the lengendary Cray computers used by the NSA being hacked or held for ransom. Hell, they along with the CIA worked YEARS to screw up Iran's nuke program via computer. All I'm saying is they should put that knowledge in the hands of all crucial national infrastructure. Hell, they should have been doing that since 9-11!
    are you naive enough to believe that the government would admit publically that this happened
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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