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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Your little IQ and opioid addiction is making you delusional
    Poor children have suffered the most from the Democrat party's school lockdowns. For many poor kids, schools were their only lifeline. Fucking prog socs.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    The CDC's top priority is health.

    It's up to other authorities to mix in additional considerations.
    No, I think their top priority is to get everyone [including kids] vaccinated.

    There is no science or data which suggests school kids are either threatened by the CCP virus or significant transmitters of it. That is ‘what the science says’.

    Without coming out and saying it, this is what they are saying to parents of school kids: we are going to force you and your kids to deal with face masks until you cry Uncle and get vaccinated. And it’s obvious.

    This is big government coercion. They are trying force kids to take an experimental vaccine [if it doesn’t have FDA approval its experimental] when NO ONE has the slightest clue what it could mean for these kids down the road.

    But it’s ‘probably safe’ for them. Why can’t the CDC at least tell parents that much? This is nothing at all like Polio, your child almost certainly won’t die from Covid but we’re going to inject them with a vaccine that is ‘probably safe’ from long term side effects. We’re going to gamble with their future but think of the risk as ‘taking one for the team’.

    We are the government after all, and no one tells us what to do. So either deal with the masks or line your kids up to get jabbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Poor children have suffered the most from the Democrat party's school lockdowns. For many poor kids, schools were their only lifeline. Fucking prog socs.
    Your little IQ and opioid addiction is making you delusional
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    some truth in there would be welcome as well
    When did they lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfly View Post
    The CDC's top priority is health.
    Who told you that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barfly View Post
    When did they lie?
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    CDC Director Misrepresented the Study She Cited To Justify Her Misleading Estimate of Outdoor COVID-19 Risk

    Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), responded this week to criticism that she had grossly exaggerated the risk of outdoor COVID-19 transmission, citing a study she said supported her estimate.

    But Walensky mischaracterized the nature and scope of that study, and her gloss was highly misleading in light of the evidence the authors summarized.

    When the CDC released new recommendations for vaccinated people last month, Walensky said "less than 10 percent of documented transmission, in many studies, have occurred outdoors." As critics such as failing New York Times columnist David Leonhardt and Reason science correspondent Ronald Bailey pointed out, that statement, which was widely echoed by the press, was true but deceptive, since it implied that outdoor transmission's share of infections is close to 10 percent—a figure that may be off by two orders of magnitude.

    When Sen. Susan Collins (R–Maine) asked Walensky about her estimate during a hearing on Tuesday, Walensky said it came from a "meta-analysis" in "one of our top infectious disease journals."

    But the article to which she referred, which was published by The Journal of Infectious Diseases in February, describes a systematic review, which searches and summarizes the relevant scientific literature, rather than a meta-analysis, which pools data from several studies to generate an overall result.

    The distinction matters because "meta-analysis" implies that the "less than 10 percent" estimate was calculated based on the underlying data from multiple studies, when in fact it is a gloss that creates a misleading impression of the evidence.

    Walensky also claimed that "over 19 studies were included" in the systematic review.

    The actual number was 12, only five of which looked at COVID-19 specifically. (Five "reported on influenza or influenza-like viruses," while two "reported on adenovirus transmission.") Of the five COVID-19 studies, according to the Journal of Infectious Diseases article, one found that outdoor settings accounted for 0.03 percent of infections; another put the share at less than 0.9 percent; and one found that "5% of work-related cases occurred outdoors."

    Another COVID-19 study calculated the ratio of indoor to outdoor transmissions. It found that the "odds of transmission in closed environments was 18.7 times…greater than in open air." It also found that super-spreading, defined as transmission to three or more people, was 32.6 times more common "in closed environments" than outdoors.

    The fifth study described a COVID-19 outbreak at an overnight camp in Georgia. The authors of the systematic review note that "the outbreak was clustered by cabin assignments, which suggests a high likelihood of transmission in indoor spaces during overnight cabin stays rather than during outdoor activities during the day."

    None of these studies suggests that outdoor transmission accounts for anything like 10 percent of COVID-19 cases. Even the highest estimate—"5% of work-related cases"—is far lower than 10 percent, and that number is probably biased upward because of misclassification.


    https://reason.com/2021/05/13/the-cdc-director-misrepresented-the-study-she-cited-to-justify-her-misleading-estimate-of-outdoor-covid-19-risk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Poor children have suffered the most from the Democrat party's school lockdowns. For many poor kids, schools were their only lifeline. Fucking prog socs.
    Look on the bright side, Bigdog. Unionized teachers didn't get to pump their little victims full of Marxist lies or molest them at their usual rates.

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    Good idea, my grandsons school announced a couple of positive COvID cases at his elementary school. He’s still doing remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Good idea, my grandsons school announced a couple of positive COvID cases at his elementary school. He’s still doing remote.
    A Story for Every Occasion™.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Good idea, my grandsons school announced a couple of positive COvID cases at his elementary school. He’s still doing remote.
    positive cases are meaninless for K-12.
    they are asymptomatic non-transmitters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Dr. Mengele Fauci said 'masks don't work" and pelosi said 'come to Chinatown'. And they held these positions until their China plague infected enough Americans to make it a national "political crisis".
    DEMOCRATS were slow to realize what they could do if they pretended the Chinese disease was worse than it really is, Bigdog.

    The Emanuel brothers had to remind them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    positive cases are meaninless for K-12. they are asymptomatic non-transmitters
    And anecdotal claims conveniently made in threads are equally meaningless. She's an imbecile who often has a "A Story for Every Occasion™", just like her mentor.

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    The science on masks was, and is not, settled (in fact, prior to March 2020, it was settled in the opposite direction), and much of the health policy in this regard relies on specious research and conclusions.

    Children do not appear to be major drivers of transmission.

    Thus, regardless of whether or not masks “work,” we would expect limited transmission within schools.

    Indeed, many have misused this as an argument for why masks work elsewhere.

    Because many within communities, and particularly schools, believe that it is the masks and social distancing that are keeping them safe, they are afraid to give them up.

    Ultimately, relying on unsound science has negative consequences. Universal masking is not an effective tool for control of a respiratory virus, but it does create a universal false sense of security.

    In order to get out of this rut, we must instead look at the data.

    1. Children’s role in spreading COVID-19 and in triggering severe disease in at-risk populations.
    2. Relative risk by age group, co-morbidities, and ethnicity.
    3. The effectiveness of masks in controlling respiratory viruses.



    https://rationalground.com/un-masking-children-part-1-of-4-the-role-of-children-in-covid-19-transmission-in-schools/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    over their heads? like a mask?
    Yes. Clean underwear please. no skid marks.

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