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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Who do you think fired all the rockets from Gaza into Israel? Who supplies these rockets? They ain't cheap nor easy to make.
    You have proof they were launching the rockets from the apartment complexes? The Zionist target civilians, they targeted the building where AP and Al Jazeera were located. 50 children dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    You're now actually spamming with so many Palestine threads, Moon.
    I know that it's your main issue, and that's fine,
    but the multiple threads are going to have people complaining
    and possibly putting you on ignore.

    Why not pick a thread and go with it?

    This one will do. Now fuck off, you prosemitic creepo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Israelis never stop sending in settlers into lands they said were for the Palestinians. they're bad faith negotiation partners.
    Nobody's perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Correct. There was never a country named Palestine.
    So? There was never a country called Israel till 1947, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Countries That Recognize Palestine 2021

    Rank
    Country
    2021 Population
    1 China 1,444,216,107
    2 India 1,393,409,038
    3 United States 332,915,073
    4 Indonesia 276,361,783
    5 Pakistan 225,199,937
    6 Brazil 213,993,437
    7 Nigeria 211,400,708
    8 Bangladesh 166,303,498
    9 Russia 145,912,025
    10 Mexico 130,262,216
    11 Japan 126,050,804
    12 Ethiopia 117,876,227
    13 Philippines 111,046,913
    14 Egypt 104,258,327
    15 Vietnam 98,168,833
    16 Dr Congo 92,377,993
    17 Turkey 85,042,738
    18 Iran 85,028,759
    19 Germany 83,900,473
    20 Thailand 69,950,850
    21 United Kingdom 68,207,116
    22 France 65,426,179
    23 Tanzania 61,498,437
    24 Italy 60,367,477
    25 South Africa 60,041,994
    26 Kenya 54,985,698
    27 Myanmar 54,806,012
    28 South Korea 51,305,186
    29 Colombia 51,265,844
    30 Uganda 47,123,531
    31 Spain 46,745,216
    32 Argentina 45,605,826
    33 Sudan 44,909,353
    34 Algeria 44,616,624
    35 Ukraine 43,466,819
    36 Iraq 41,179,350
    37 Afghanistan 39,835,428
    38 Canada 38,067,903
    39 Poland 37,797,005
    40 Morocco 37,344,795
    41 Saudi Arabia 35,340,683
    42 Uzbekistan 33,935,763
    43 Angola 33,933,610
    44 Peru 33,359,418
    45 Malaysia 32,776,194
    46 Mozambique 32,163,047
    47 Ghana 31,732,129
    48 Yemen 30,490,640
    49 Nepal 29,674,920
    50 Venezuela 28,704,954
    51 Madagascar 28,427,328
    52 Cameroon 27,224,265
    53 Ivory Coast 27,053,629
    54 North Korea 25,887,041
    55 Australia 25,788,215
    56 Niger 25,130,817
    57 Taiwan 23,855,010
    58 Sri Lanka 21,497,310
    59 Burkina Faso 21,497,096
    60 Mali 20,855,735
    61 Malawi 19,647,684
    62 Chile 19,212,361
    63 Romania 19,127,774
    64 Kazakhstan 18,994,962
    65 Zambia 18,920,651
    66 Syria 18,275,702
    67 Guatemala 18,249,860
    68 Ecuador 17,888,475
    69 Senegal 17,196,301
    70 Netherlands 17,173,099
    71 Cambodia 16,946,438
    72 Chad 16,914,985
    73 Somalia 16,359,504
    74 Zimbabwe 15,092,171
    75 Guinea 13,497,244
    76 Rwanda 13,276,513
    77 Benin 12,451,040
    78 Burundi 12,255,433
    79 Tunisia 11,935,766
    80 Bolivia 11,832,940
    81 Belgium 11,632,326
    82 Haiti 11,541,685
    83 South Sudan 11,381,378
    84 Cuba 11,317,505
    85 Dominican Republic 10,953,703
    86 Czech Republic 10,724,555
    87 Greece 10,370,744
    88 Jordan 10,269,021
    89 Azerbaijan 10,223,342
    90 Portugal 10,167,925
    91 Sweden 10,160,169
    92 Honduras 10,062,991
    93 United Arab Emirates 9,991,089
    94 Tajikistan 9,749,627
    95 Hungary 9,634,164
    96 Belarus 9,442,862
    97 Papua New Guinea 9,119,010
    98 Austria 9,043,070
    99 Israel 8,789,774
    100 Switzerland 8,715,494
    101 Serbia 8,697,550
    102 Togo 8,478,250
    103 Sierra Leone 8,141,343
    104 Hong Kong 7,552,810
    105 Laos 7,379,358
    106 Paraguay 7,219,638
    107 Libya 6,958,532
    108 Bulgaria 6,896,663
    109 Lebanon 6,769,146
    110 Nicaragua 6,702,385
    111 Kyrgyzstan 6,628,356
    112 El Salvador 6,518,499
    113 Turkmenistan 6,117,924
    114 Singapore 5,896,686
    115 Denmark 5,813,298
    116 Republic Of The Congo 5,657,013
    117 Finland 5,548,360
    118 Norway 5,465,630
    119 Slovakia 5,460,721
    120 Oman 5,223,375
    121 Palestine 5,222,748
    122 Liberia 5,180,203
    123 Costa Rica 5,139,052
    124 Ireland 4,982,907
    125 Central African Republic 4,919,981
    126 New Zealand 4,860,643
    127 Mauritania 4,775,119
    128 Panama 4,381,579
    129 Kuwait 4,328,550
    130 Croatia 4,081,651
    131 Moldova 4,024,019
    132 Georgia 3,979,765
    133 Eritrea 3,601,467
    134 Uruguay 3,485,151
    135 Mongolia 3,329,289
    136 Bosnia And Herzegovina 3,263,466
    137 Jamaica 2,973,463
    138 Armenia 2,968,127
    139 Qatar 2,930,528
    140 Albania 2,872,933
    141 Puerto Rico 2,828,255
    142 Lithuania 2,689,862
    143 Namibia 2,587,344
    144 Gambia 2,486,945
    145 Botswana 2,397,241
    146 Gabon 2,278,825
    147 Lesotho 2,159,079
    148 North Macedonia 2,082,658
    149 Slovenia 2,078,724
    150 Guinea Bissau 2,015,494
    151 Latvia 1,866,942
    152 Bahrain 1,748,296
    153 Equatorial Guinea 1,449,896
    154 Trinidad And Tobago 1,403,375
    155 Timor Leste 1,343,873
    156 Estonia 1,325,185
    157 Mauritius 1,273,433
    158 Cyprus 1,215,584
    159 Swaziland 1,172,362
    160 Djibouti 1,002,187
    161 Fiji 902,906
    162 Reunion 901,686
    163 Comoros 888,451
    164 Guyana 790,326
    165 Bhutan 779,898
    166 Solomon Islands 703,996
    167 Macau 658,394
    168 Luxembourg 634,814
    169 Montenegro 628,053
    170 Western Sahara 611,875
    171 Suriname 591,800
    172 Cape Verde 561,898
    173 Maldives 543,617
    174 Malta 442,784
    175 Brunei 441,532
    176 Belize 404,914
    177 Guadeloupe 400,020
    178 Bahamas 396,913
    179 Martinique 374,745
    180 Iceland 343,353
    181 Vanuatu 314,464
    182 French Guiana 306,448
    183 New Caledonia 288,218
    184 Barbados 287,711
    185 French Polynesia 282,530
    186 Mayotte 279,515
    187 Sao Tome And Principe 223,368
    188 Samoa 200,149
    189 Saint Lucia 184,400
    190 Guam 170,179
    191 Curacao 164,798
    192 Kiribati 121,392
    193 Micronesia 116,254
    194 Grenada 113,021
    195 Saint Vincent And The Grenadines 111,263
    196 Aruba 107,204
    197 Tonga 106,760
    198 United States Virgin Islands 104,226
    199 Seychelles 98,908
    200 Antigua And Barbuda 98,731
    201 Isle Of Man 85,410
    202 Andorra 77,355
    203 Dominica 72,167
    204 Cayman Islands 66,497
    205 Bermuda 62,090
    206 Marshall Islands 59,610
    207 Northern Mariana Islands 57,917
    208 Greenland 56,877
    209 American Samoa 55,100
    210 Saint Kitts And Nevis 53,544
    211 Faroe Islands 49,049
    212 Sint Maarten 43,412
    213 Monaco 39,511
    214 Saint Martin 39,234
    215 Turks And Caicos Islands 39,231
    216 Liechtenstein 38,250
    217 San Marino 34,017
    218 Gibraltar 33,698
    219 British Virgin Islands 30,421
    220 Palau 18,169
    221 Cook Islands 17,565
    222 Anguilla 15,117
    223 Tuvalu 11,931
    224 Wallis And Futuna 11,094
    225 Nauru 10,876
    226 Saint Barthelemy 9,907
    227 Saint Pierre And Miquelon 5,766
    228 Montserrat 4,977
    229 Falkland Islands 3,533
    230 Niue 1,619
    231 Tokelau 1,373
    232 Vatican City 800

    Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognize Palestinian statehood.[

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    This one will do. Now fuck off, you prosemitic creepo.
    The Palestinians are semites too.
    And you're on ignore, asshole.
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    Published February 23rd, 2020 - 10:33 GMT
    In an interview with Israel's Channel 12 News, former Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman revealed details about a secret visit to Qatar by Mossad Chief Yossi Cohen and the Israeli military's chief of Southern Command Herzl Halevi to allegedly "beg the Qataris to keep pouring money into Hamas."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    So? There was never a country called Israel till 1947, either.



    In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by loon View Post
    Countries That Recognize Palestine

    United States

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Nobody's perfect.
    :shrug:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    You have proof they were launching the rockets from the apartment complexes? The Zionist target civilians, they targeted the building where AP and Al Jazeera were located. 50 children dead.
    They were warned. The building is also Hamas HQ. If you allow terrorists to rent in your building, that's on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).
    the land of nod is real too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by volkscrock View Post
    Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognize Palestinian statehood.[
    You silly born fucker- you've copied and pasted the wrong list.


    How dumb are ya ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why don’t the Palestinians have a right for defense?
    You're an imbecile Dotty!

    Hamas' rocket attacks have little to do with Israel - it's a political campaign for control over Palestinian Territories
    The current outburst of violence was caused by one man. And he didn’t even have to open his mouth to trigger it.

    Michael Petraeus
    1 hr ago

    Marwan Barghouti
    You might be forgiven for thinking that rockets launched on Israel from Gaza and Jewish state retaliating against Hamas is just business as usual in the country. Another chapter in the hopeless Palestinian struggle for statehood.

    The reality is a bit more complex.
    You see, everybody knows that Hamas can't really hurt Israel and that any form of armed struggle by the Palestinians is destined to fail. There is simply no way for them not only to defeat the Israeli army but to even make a dent in the territories it controls or to force Israel to make any concessions. Iron Dome intercepts most rockets and those which do make it over kill maybe a handful of individuals. In fact, more people died in Gaza due to Hamas rockets falling short of their targets, than in Israel.

    Violence, however, does have its uses.

    Some people say that Hamas is simply responding to planned evictions of Palestinians from Sheikh Jarrah in East Jerusalem and the Israeli police storming of the Al Aqsa mosque to clear the Arab protesters a week ago.

    This is, still, just the surface, not the real cause.

    To understand why and how we have arrived at this boiling point, we have to go back in time by a few months. In September 2020 the warring parties - Fatah and Hamas - each controlling a different part of Palestinian Territories, agreed to hold the first parliamentary and presidential elections since 2006. In January, Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, announced three - to Palestinian Legislative council, on May 22, presidential, on July 31 and to PLO's Palestinian National Council, on August 31.

    From that point on, things have taken a turn for the worse.
    Internal fractures within Fatah, that Abbas controls with an iron fist, have cracked the party in mid-March, as Nasser al-Qudwa, Yasser Arafat's nephew and a member of the party's Central Committee announced a breakaway bid in the legislative elections - what resulted in his expulsion from the party.

    Nasser al-Qudwa - Wikipedia
    Nasser al-Qudwa, Yasser Arafat’s nephew.
    Enter Marwan Barghouti.
    Upon his expulsion from Fatah, al-Qudwa voiced support for Barghouti's bid in the presidential election in July - a harbinger of things to follow...

    Barghouti calls for Palestinian leadership primaries as heat turns up for Israel | The Times of Israel
    The former leader of Fatah's paramilitary wing is serving five consecutive life sentences in Israeli prison (for murder and terrorist activity). Arrested in 2002, he's been behind bars ever since and has grown to become the most popular Palestinian figure, seen as a martyr who sacrificed his life for the Palestinian struggle - unlike the current corrupt and untrustworthy leaders in Gaza and West Bank (if you thought Palestinians like their politicians, you're wrong).

    Nevertheless, the vote was still expected to be held - though some uncertainties remained about the voting in East Jerusalem, which requires Israeli cooperation (Palestinian Authority is banned from operating in the city). Israel, probably anticipating problems, has been dragging its feet on the issue, delaying the decision on how the vote could be organized.

    Registration of party lists to stand for the election was due by midnight on March 31. Just a few hours before the deadline, Fadwa Barghouti - wife of Marwan - submitted a joint list of her husband and Nasser al-Qudwa.

    Fadwa Barghouti: 'For peace to come, Israel must release my husband' | The Independent | The Independent
    Fadwa Barghouti
    This last minute entry into the race has turned the situation upside down.
    Barghouti's immense popularity is bound to drain support from Fatah, which in March still polled at 43% vs Hamas' 30%.

    His list, however, is expected to attract 20 to 30% of the voters, drawing them mostly from Fatah. The party is also facing a smaller challenge from an exiled former head of Palestinian security, Mohammed Dahlan, who could attract a few percent of the voters. It could splinter the vote three ways and result in Hamas becoming the largest party in the legislative council, relegating Fatah to 2nd or even 3rd place, forcing it to enter expected coalition discussions from a position of weakness, not strength.

    Since Barghouti's name was not on the submitted party lists, he is widely expected to make a bid for presidency, which he should win easily beating rivals with over 60% of the vote (otherwise, a tightly contested race was expected between Abbas and Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, with the mid-March poll showing them head to head, at 47 to 46%).

    This was a double torpedo which could sink current Fatah leadership, including Abbas and his cronies. It wasn't a perfect scenario for Hamas either, as it would defeat Haniyeh's chances for the presidency, but it could make the terror group the largest party in the council, giving it a chance at the formation of the new government.

    It didn't come as a surprise, then, that on April 29, Mahmoud Abbas backed out of the earlier agreements and announced indefinite postponement of the elections - yet again.
    The handy reason was given to him by... Israel.
    By delaying the decision on the vote in East Jerusalem, Israeli authorities provided Abbas with an alibi - the vote cannot be held as long as Palestinians from the city are not guaranteed full participation in it.

    Ironically, it's currently the most desirable outcome for both Israel and the Palestinian President. Abbas buys himself time to deal with the political crisis, while Israel keeps Palestinians divided (and Hamas away from the West Bank).

    As could be expected, the Hamas called Abbas' decision a coup.

    Just a week later protests erupted on the Temple Mount, which transformed a few days later into a rocket barrage on Israel.

    Iconic' Iron Dome Photo Shows Israeli Missiles Countering Rockets From Gaza

    The end of Ramadan, coupled with Jerusalem Day celebrated by Israelis (to commemorate recapturing of East Jerusalem in the Six Day War in 1967) as well as the incoming ruling on the Sheikh Jarrah evictions, slated to be announced on May 10, provided a perfect blend of circumstances to provoke a brutal clash in the location sacred to both sides.

    While there have been occasional clashes and controversies in the past month, particularly in the build up to the decision on Sheikh Jarrah case, the escalation started when Hamas sympathizers appeared in Al Aqsa, chanting songs of support for the terror group and bunkered themselves in, ostensibly to protect the building from a raid of right wing Israelis.

    Since protesters refused to leave and amassed stones and other weapons they could throw not only at the police but at the Israelis at the Temple Mount and Wailing Wall celebrating the Jerusalem Day, Israeli police stormed the compound and removed Palestinians in the morning of May 10, after 3 days of preceding clashes (there and in other locations).

    By then Hamas had prepared to launch rockets in anticipation of an unfavorable ruling in the Sheikh Jarrah case but the Supreme Court postponed it in the last minute on May 9. Since this excuse was now void, Hamas acted quickly, giving Israelis an ultimatum to vacate the mosque area - not something that Israelis would do, of course - and in the evening of May 10 started launching missiles, ostensibly in defense of the sacred area in East Jerusalem.

    The real reason, however, was not to inflame tensions with Israel again - this is just a means to an end. The target, this time, was Mahmoud Abbas.

    Hamas' escalation with Israel at this particular time and place, is a revenge for the postponement of the elections, which is meant to further sink Fatah's and Abbas' chances for any political turnaround.

    Through military offensive, Hamas is positioning itself as the only organization defending Palestinian people, while obviously "corrupt" Fatah organized a "coup" by cancelling the elections all people have so eagerly been anticipating, simply because Abbas got cold feet after Barghouti's entrance, which would likely sink his party and himself.

    Jailed Palestinian leader Barghouti shakes up planned parliamentary elections

    The jailed Palestinian hero didn't even have to utter a word - his return to politics was enough to set off a chain reaction which led to escalation of hostilities, providing a context for another intra-Palestinian showdown between competing, conflicted parties, undoing months of rapprochement, freezing the State of Palestine in its political divisions (to certain amusement and satisfaction from Israel too).

    https://www.criticalspectator.com/p/...ks-have-little
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).
    LOL, never recognized and then what happened?

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