Salon magazine says Israel committing war crimes in latest round of fighting.

[Phantasmal]

Who do you think fired all the rockets from Gaza into Israel? Who supplies these rockets? They ain't cheap nor easy to make.

You have proof they were launching the rockets from the apartment complexes? The Zionist target civilians, they targeted the building where AP and Al Jazeera were located. 50 children dead.

[moon]

You're now actually spamming with so many Palestine threads, Moon.
I know that it's your main issue, and that's fine,
but the multiple threads are going to have people complaining
and possibly putting you on ignore.

Why not pick a thread and go with it?

This one will do. Now fuck off, you prosemitic creepo.

[Legion]

Israelis never stop sending in settlers into lands they said were for the Palestinians. they're bad faith negotiation partners.

Nobody's perfect.

[Phantasmal]

Correct. There was never a country named Palestine.

So? There was never a country called Israel till 1947, either.

[volsrock]

Countries That Recognize Palestine 2021

Rank
Country
2021 Population
1 China 1,444,216,107
2 India 1,393,409,038
3 United States 332,915,073
4 Indonesia 276,361,783
5 Pakistan 225,199,937
6 Brazil 213,993,437
7 Nigeria 211,400,708
8 Bangladesh 166,303,498
9 Russia 145,912,025
10 Mexico 130,262,216
11 Japan 126,050,804
12 Ethiopia 117,876,227
13 Philippines 111,046,913
14 Egypt 104,258,327
15 Vietnam 98,168,833
16 Dr Congo 92,377,993
17 Turkey 85,042,738
18 Iran 85,028,759
19 Germany 83,900,473
20 Thailand 69,950,850
21 United Kingdom 68,207,116
22 France 65,426,179
23 Tanzania 61,498,437
24 Italy 60,367,477
25 South Africa 60,041,994
26 Kenya 54,985,698
27 Myanmar 54,806,012
28 South Korea 51,305,186
29 Colombia 51,265,844
30 Uganda 47,123,531
31 Spain 46,745,216
32 Argentina 45,605,826
33 Sudan 44,909,353
34 Algeria 44,616,624
35 Ukraine 43,466,819
36 Iraq 41,179,350
37 Afghanistan 39,835,428
38 Canada 38,067,903
39 Poland 37,797,005
40 Morocco 37,344,795
41 Saudi Arabia 35,340,683
42 Uzbekistan 33,935,763
43 Angola 33,933,610
44 Peru 33,359,418
45 Malaysia 32,776,194
46 Mozambique 32,163,047
47 Ghana 31,732,129
48 Yemen 30,490,640
49 Nepal 29,674,920
50 Venezuela 28,704,954
51 Madagascar 28,427,328
52 Cameroon 27,224,265
53 Ivory Coast 27,053,629
54 North Korea 25,887,041
55 Australia 25,788,215
56 Niger 25,130,817
57 Taiwan 23,855,010
58 Sri Lanka 21,497,310
59 Burkina Faso 21,497,096
60 Mali 20,855,735
61 Malawi 19,647,684
62 Chile 19,212,361
63 Romania 19,127,774
64 Kazakhstan 18,994,962
65 Zambia 18,920,651
66 Syria 18,275,702
67 Guatemala 18,249,860
68 Ecuador 17,888,475
69 Senegal 17,196,301
70 Netherlands 17,173,099
71 Cambodia 16,946,438
72 Chad 16,914,985
73 Somalia 16,359,504
74 Zimbabwe 15,092,171
75 Guinea 13,497,244
76 Rwanda 13,276,513
77 Benin 12,451,040
78 Burundi 12,255,433
79 Tunisia 11,935,766
80 Bolivia 11,832,940
81 Belgium 11,632,326
82 Haiti 11,541,685
83 South Sudan 11,381,378
84 Cuba 11,317,505
85 Dominican Republic 10,953,703
86 Czech Republic 10,724,555
87 Greece 10,370,744
88 Jordan 10,269,021
89 Azerbaijan 10,223,342
90 Portugal 10,167,925
91 Sweden 10,160,169
92 Honduras 10,062,991
93 United Arab Emirates 9,991,089
94 Tajikistan 9,749,627
95 Hungary 9,634,164
96 Belarus 9,442,862
97 Papua New Guinea 9,119,010
98 Austria 9,043,070
99 Israel 8,789,774
100 Switzerland 8,715,494
101 Serbia 8,697,550
102 Togo 8,478,250
103 Sierra Leone 8,141,343
104 Hong Kong 7,552,810
105 Laos 7,379,358
106 Paraguay 7,219,638
107 Libya 6,958,532
108 Bulgaria 6,896,663
109 Lebanon 6,769,146
110 Nicaragua 6,702,385
111 Kyrgyzstan 6,628,356
112 El Salvador 6,518,499
113 Turkmenistan 6,117,924
114 Singapore 5,896,686
115 Denmark 5,813,298
116 Republic Of The Congo 5,657,013
117 Finland 5,548,360
118 Norway 5,465,630
119 Slovakia 5,460,721
120 Oman 5,223,375
121 Palestine 5,222,748
122 Liberia 5,180,203
123 Costa Rica 5,139,052
124 Ireland 4,982,907
125 Central African Republic 4,919,981
126 New Zealand 4,860,643
127 Mauritania 4,775,119
128 Panama 4,381,579
129 Kuwait 4,328,550
130 Croatia 4,081,651
131 Moldova 4,024,019
132 Georgia 3,979,765
133 Eritrea 3,601,467
134 Uruguay 3,485,151
135 Mongolia 3,329,289
136 Bosnia And Herzegovina 3,263,466
137 Jamaica 2,973,463
138 Armenia 2,968,127
139 Qatar 2,930,528
140 Albania 2,872,933
141 Puerto Rico 2,828,255
142 Lithuania 2,689,862
143 Namibia 2,587,344
144 Gambia 2,486,945
145 Botswana 2,397,241
146 Gabon 2,278,825
147 Lesotho 2,159,079
148 North Macedonia 2,082,658
149 Slovenia 2,078,724
150 Guinea Bissau 2,015,494
151 Latvia 1,866,942
152 Bahrain 1,748,296
153 Equatorial Guinea 1,449,896
154 Trinidad And Tobago 1,403,375
155 Timor Leste 1,343,873
156 Estonia 1,325,185
157 Mauritius 1,273,433
158 Cyprus 1,215,584
159 Swaziland 1,172,362
160 Djibouti 1,002,187
161 Fiji 902,906
162 Reunion 901,686
163 Comoros 888,451
164 Guyana 790,326
165 Bhutan 779,898
166 Solomon Islands 703,996
167 Macau 658,394
168 Luxembourg 634,814
169 Montenegro 628,053
170 Western Sahara 611,875
171 Suriname 591,800
172 Cape Verde 561,898
173 Maldives 543,617
174 Malta 442,784
175 Brunei 441,532
176 Belize 404,914
177 Guadeloupe 400,020
178 Bahamas 396,913
179 Martinique 374,745
180 Iceland 343,353
181 Vanuatu 314,464
182 French Guiana 306,448
183 New Caledonia 288,218
184 Barbados 287,711
185 French Polynesia 282,530
186 Mayotte 279,515
187 Sao Tome And Principe 223,368
188 Samoa 200,149
189 Saint Lucia 184,400
190 Guam 170,179
191 Curacao 164,798
192 Kiribati 121,392
193 Micronesia 116,254
194 Grenada 113,021
195 Saint Vincent And The Grenadines 111,263
196 Aruba 107,204
197 Tonga 106,760
198 United States Virgin Islands 104,226
199 Seychelles 98,908
200 Antigua And Barbuda 98,731
201 Isle Of Man 85,410
202 Andorra 77,355
203 Dominica 72,167
204 Cayman Islands 66,497
205 Bermuda 62,090
206 Marshall Islands 59,610
207 Northern Mariana Islands 57,917
208 Greenland 56,877
209 American Samoa 55,100
210 Saint Kitts And Nevis 53,544
211 Faroe Islands 49,049
212 Sint Maarten 43,412
213 Monaco 39,511
214 Saint Martin 39,234
215 Turks And Caicos Islands 39,231
216 Liechtenstein 38,250
217 San Marino 34,017
218 Gibraltar 33,698
219 British Virgin Islands 30,421
220 Palau 18,169
221 Cook Islands 17,565
222 Anguilla 15,117
223 Tuvalu 11,931
224 Wallis And Futuna 11,094
225 Nauru 10,876
226 Saint Barthelemy 9,907
227 Saint Pierre And Miquelon 5,766
228 Montserrat 4,977
229 Falkland Islands 3,533
230 Niue 1,619
231 Tokelau 1,373
232 Vatican City 800

Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognize Palestinian statehood.[

[NiftyNiblick]

This one will do. Now fuck off, you prosemitic creepo.

The Palestinians are semites too.
And you're on ignore, asshole.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Published February 23rd, 2020 - 10:33 GMT
In an interview with Israel's Channel 12 News, former Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Liberman revealed details about a secret visit to Qatar by Mossad Chief Yossi Cohen and the Israeli military's chief of Southern Command Herzl Halevi to allegedly "beg the Qataris to keep pouring money into Hamas."

[volsrock]

So? There was never a country called Israel till 1947, either.

In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).

[Legion]

Countries That Recognize Palestine

United States

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Nobody's perfect.

:shrug:

[Doc Dutch]

You have proof they were launching the rockets from the apartment complexes? The Zionist target civilians, they targeted the building where AP and Al Jazeera were located. 50 children dead.

They were warned. The building is also Hamas HQ. If you allow terrorists to rent in your building, that's on you.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).

the land of nod is real too!

[moon]

Obama told Abbas that they would veto any United Nations Security Council move to recognize Palestinian statehood.[

You silly born fucker- you've copied and pasted the wrong list.


How dumb are ya ?


Haw, haw.................................haw.

[cancel2 2022]

Why don’t the Palestinians have a right for defense?

You're an imbecile Dotty!

Hamas' rocket attacks have little to do with Israel - it's a political campaign for control over Palestinian Territories
The current outburst of violence was caused by one man. And he didn’t even have to open his mouth to trigger it.

Michael Petraeus
1 hr ago

Marwan Barghouti
You might be forgiven for thinking that rockets launched on Israel from Gaza and Jewish state retaliating against Hamas is just business as usual in the country. Another chapter in the hopeless Palestinian struggle for statehood.

The reality is a bit more complex.
You see, everybody knows that Hamas can't really hurt Israel and that any form of armed struggle by the Palestinians is destined to fail. There is simply no way for them not only to defeat the Israeli army but to even make a dent in the territories it controls or to force Israel to make any concessions. Iron Dome intercepts most rockets and those which do make it over kill maybe a handful of individuals. In fact, more people died in Gaza due to Hamas rockets falling short of their targets, than in Israel.

Violence, however, does have its uses.

Some people say that Hamas is simply responding to planned evictions of Palestinians from Sheikh Jarrah in East Jerusalem and the Israeli police storming of the Al Aqsa mosque to clear the Arab protesters a week ago.

This is, still, just the surface, not the real cause.

To understand why and how we have arrived at this boiling point, we have to go back in time by a few months. In September 2020 the warring parties - Fatah and Hamas - each controlling a different part of Palestinian Territories, agreed to hold the first parliamentary and presidential elections since 2006. In January, Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, announced three - to Palestinian Legislative council, on May 22, presidential, on July 31 and to PLO's Palestinian National Council, on August 31.

From that point on, things have taken a turn for the worse.
Internal fractures within Fatah, that Abbas controls with an iron fist, have cracked the party in mid-March, as Nasser al-Qudwa, Yasser Arafat's nephew and a member of the party's Central Committee announced a breakaway bid in the legislative elections - what resulted in his expulsion from the party.

Nasser al-Qudwa - Wikipedia
Nasser al-Qudwa, Yasser Arafat’s nephew.
Enter Marwan Barghouti.
Upon his expulsion from Fatah, al-Qudwa voiced support for Barghouti's bid in the presidential election in July - a harbinger of things to follow...

Barghouti calls for Palestinian leadership primaries as heat turns up for Israel | The Times of Israel
The former leader of Fatah's paramilitary wing is serving five consecutive life sentences in Israeli prison (for murder and terrorist activity). Arrested in 2002, he's been behind bars ever since and has grown to become the most popular Palestinian figure, seen as a martyr who sacrificed his life for the Palestinian struggle - unlike the current corrupt and untrustworthy leaders in Gaza and West Bank (if you thought Palestinians like their politicians, you're wrong).

Nevertheless, the vote was still expected to be held - though some uncertainties remained about the voting in East Jerusalem, which requires Israeli cooperation (Palestinian Authority is banned from operating in the city). Israel, probably anticipating problems, has been dragging its feet on the issue, delaying the decision on how the vote could be organized.

Registration of party lists to stand for the election was due by midnight on March 31. Just a few hours before the deadline, Fadwa Barghouti - wife of Marwan - submitted a joint list of her husband and Nasser al-Qudwa.

Fadwa Barghouti: 'For peace to come, Israel must release my husband' | The Independent | The Independent
Fadwa Barghouti
This last minute entry into the race has turned the situation upside down.
Barghouti's immense popularity is bound to drain support from Fatah, which in March still polled at 43% vs Hamas' 30%.

His list, however, is expected to attract 20 to 30% of the voters, drawing them mostly from Fatah. The party is also facing a smaller challenge from an exiled former head of Palestinian security, Mohammed Dahlan, who could attract a few percent of the voters. It could splinter the vote three ways and result in Hamas becoming the largest party in the legislative council, relegating Fatah to 2nd or even 3rd place, forcing it to enter expected coalition discussions from a position of weakness, not strength.

Since Barghouti's name was not on the submitted party lists, he is widely expected to make a bid for presidency, which he should win easily beating rivals with over 60% of the vote (otherwise, a tightly contested race was expected between Abbas and Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, with the mid-March poll showing them head to head, at 47 to 46%).

This was a double torpedo which could sink current Fatah leadership, including Abbas and his cronies. It wasn't a perfect scenario for Hamas either, as it would defeat Haniyeh's chances for the presidency, but it could make the terror group the largest party in the council, giving it a chance at the formation of the new government.

It didn't come as a surprise, then, that on April 29, Mahmoud Abbas backed out of the earlier agreements and announced indefinite postponement of the elections - yet again.
The handy reason was given to him by... Israel.
By delaying the decision on the vote in East Jerusalem, Israeli authorities provided Abbas with an alibi - the vote cannot be held as long as Palestinians from the city are not guaranteed full participation in it.

Ironically, it's currently the most desirable outcome for both Israel and the Palestinian President. Abbas buys himself time to deal with the political crisis, while Israel keeps Palestinians divided (and Hamas away from the West Bank).

As could be expected, the Hamas called Abbas' decision a coup.

Just a week later protests erupted on the Temple Mount, which transformed a few days later into a rocket barrage on Israel.

Iconic' Iron Dome Photo Shows Israeli Missiles Countering Rockets From Gaza

The end of Ramadan, coupled with Jerusalem Day celebrated by Israelis (to commemorate recapturing of East Jerusalem in the Six Day War in 1967) as well as the incoming ruling on the Sheikh Jarrah evictions, slated to be announced on May 10, provided a perfect blend of circumstances to provoke a brutal clash in the location sacred to both sides.

While there have been occasional clashes and controversies in the past month, particularly in the build up to the decision on Sheikh Jarrah case, the escalation started when Hamas sympathizers appeared in Al Aqsa, chanting songs of support for the terror group and bunkered themselves in, ostensibly to protect the building from a raid of right wing Israelis.

Since protesters refused to leave and amassed stones and other weapons they could throw not only at the police but at the Israelis at the Temple Mount and Wailing Wall celebrating the Jerusalem Day, Israeli police stormed the compound and removed Palestinians in the morning of May 10, after 3 days of preceding clashes (there and in other locations).

By then Hamas had prepared to launch rockets in anticipation of an unfavorable ruling in the Sheikh Jarrah case but the Supreme Court postponed it in the last minute on May 9. Since this excuse was now void, Hamas acted quickly, giving Israelis an ultimatum to vacate the mosque area - not something that Israelis would do, of course - and in the evening of May 10 started launching missiles, ostensibly in defense of the sacred area in East Jerusalem.

The real reason, however, was not to inflame tensions with Israel again - this is just a means to an end. The target, this time, was Mahmoud Abbas.

Hamas' escalation with Israel at this particular time and place, is a revenge for the postponement of the elections, which is meant to further sink Fatah's and Abbas' chances for any political turnaround.

Through military offensive, Hamas is positioning itself as the only organization defending Palestinian people, while obviously "corrupt" Fatah organized a "coup" by cancelling the elections all people have so eagerly been anticipating, simply because Abbas got cold feet after Barghouti's entrance, which would likely sink his party and himself.

Jailed Palestinian leader Barghouti shakes up planned parliamentary elections

The jailed Palestinian hero didn't even have to utter a word - his return to politics was enough to set off a chain reaction which led to escalation of hostilities, providing a context for another intra-Palestinian showdown between competing, conflicted parties, undoing months of rapprochement, freezing the State of Palestine in its political divisions (to certain amusement and satisfaction from Israel too).

https://www.criticalspectator.com/p/...ks-have-little

[Phantasmal]

In 66 CE, the Jews of Judea rose in revolt against Rome, sparking the First Jewish–Roman War. The reverse seized control of Judea and named their new kingdom "Israel" (see also First Jewish Revolt coinage).

LOL, never recognized and then what happened?