And so it begins: open Civil War has broken out in the GOP

[Micawber]

Before you accept people's apologies ask that they refuse to vote for anyone kissing Trump's ring and acting like him.
There will be so many who do not disavow in order to sop up the loser vote.

[Doc Dutch]

That’s too bad. I would vote for a good Republican. I would vote for a good Independent, Green, or Libertarian. I vote for people who support my values. I put country over party.

Locally, yes. I'm referencing Congress and the WH. I have a choice of two Senators, one Rep and one President.

[Micawber]

That’s too bad. I would vote for a good Republican. I would vote for a good Independent, Green, or Libertarian. I vote for people who support my values. I put country over party.

I'm not that choosy anymore. I don't vote for deranged criminal narcissistic flame throwing jerks. My bar has become low out of necessity.

[Port Tack]

Bailing out 'capitalists' is called corporate socialism.

A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?

[Micawber]

All economists? How about naming 5? How about a single link to this collapse from a reputable source?

Goat stands for gomer of all time.

[Doc Dutch]

A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?

Agreed. The best systems seem to be a Constitutional Republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net to help the poor, infirm and minors.

[Port Tack]

They can thank the Republicans for fucking up so badly former members won't vote for them. Note that people like myself won't be voting for Democrats either.

As long as you don't vote for the republican.

[Micawber]

A capitalistic country with a few social programs is not a socialist country, it's a smart country. We have had social security for nearly a century, does that makes us a socialist country?

It did when it was enacted. Now they love it. Repukes live by and for negative labels. Dump labels and do what works.

I sort of liked Dutch Uncle's weird Clemson grad's idea for social sec reform. I won't say the word "privatize" because that is the labeling thing.
I will, however, call Republicans degenerate scum because that's what they are.

[Doc Dutch]

As long as you don't vote for the republican.

Mitt was my last vote for Republican President. I've voted Libertarian ever since.

If the Democrats or the Republicans want my vote, they need to stop running liars, pedos, adulterers and criminals for office.

[Port Tack]

That’s too bad. I would vote for a good Republican. I would vote for a good Independent, Green, or Libertarian. I vote for people who support my values. I put country over party.

I agree however I think lately there has not been any republicans that "support my values".

I have never been a registered republican or democrat and been voting since the days of Nixon. The first democrat I ever voted for for president was John Kerry.

[Phantasmal]

I agree however I think lately there has not been any republicans that "support my values".

I have never been a registered republican or democrat and been voting since the days of Nixon. The first democrat I ever voted for for president was John Kerry.

I voted for a Republican judge here in Houston and Murkowski in Alaska to save the state from the Palin cline, Miller. There are not too many Republicans in Texas that would earn my vote.

[goat]

No doubt you have it all figured out. If so, then please tell me why the Soviets, Red China, Britain, Germany, France and Japan all continue to support the conspiracy.

The Soviets, China, Britain, Germany, France, and Japan all know the US is nothing but a propaganda machine. They also know the 737 Max is a deathtrap but kept their mouth shut in public. It's all politics.

Engineers knew the Challenger was going to explode but had to keep their mouth shut if they wanted their job. You of all people should know how the game is played.

[Micawber]

Mitt was my last vote for Republican President. I've voted Libertarian ever since.

If the Democrats or the Republicans want my vote, they need to stop running liars, pedos, adulterers and criminals for office.

Admirable resolve. Adulterers? Meh. That's not illegal and not job function. Not admirable but you've just excluded many good candidates and allowed
for plenty of hypocrites and liars. Bedroom policeman!

[Micawber]

The Soviets, China, Britain, Germany, France, and Japan all know the US is nothing but a propaganda machine. They also know the 737 Max is a deathtrap but kept their mouth shut in public. It's all politics.

Engineers knew the Challenger was going to explode but had to keep their mouth shut if they wanted their job. You of all people should know how the game is played.

Oh brother. Another Stone clone. He knows things. Conspiratorial things. So when will you start speaking in vague threatening riddles? yuck

[Port Tack]

Agreed. The best systems seem to be a Constitutional Republic fueled by regulated capitalism and with a socialist safety net to help the poor, infirm and minors.

Absolutely! Every time a capitalistic country starts having the wealth inequality that the USA is having the end is in sight. Usually because so many are being screwed the idea of socialism becomes better and better. The republican and their love for a pure capitalistic society will bring socialism much quicker than a country that does not forget about it's poor.