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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The FBI certainly has it's place, but what some people seem to dancing around is a national street cop police force like the Federales. A force with direct control by Washington DC.
    Which is what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    a person shot and killed by a policeman isn't necessarily a problem.......in fact, in the majority of situations it is the solution........
    No due process? Remember all the bitching, screaming and moaning by the Right over 'due process' when Obama authorized running a Hellfire missile up a terrorist's ass?
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    There's something seriously wrong with this mindset. It puts you on the same level as the leftists wanting to use government as a weapon against those you hate
    According to me: That puts me on the common sense level. Don't mess with the popo here, they will kick your ass. I have friends and family in that dept.

    They didn't set the rules, but the rules are there. As for me, I'm gonna abide by them.

    If you only knew..LOL!

    Explain to me what's wrong with my mindset, pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Why do you think Chauvin should have been convicted without a trial?

    Yes, the rules of deadly force are standardized. Chauvin violated those rules and that's why he was on trial for murder, and rightfully so.

    Consider the use of deadly force by Officer Darren Wilson. He didn't violate the rules and, despite several investigations, was cleared of wrong doing.

    IMO, the focus should be more on body cams and car cams. With current tech, all police cars should be able to have a 360 degree camera view at relatively low cost. Body cam laws should require being on 24/7. It was body cams that were Chauvin's undoing and, IMO, it would have cleared Wilson much more quickly.
    Chauvin did not use deadly force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Then please explain what you meant about the "expert witnessed" comment.

    Most trials have expert witnesses. If anything, it was the expert witnesses that proved Chauvin murdered Floyd.
    Chauvin did not murder Floyd. 'Expert' worship.
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    I didn't cry ary a tear when they shot Snaggletooth 55x after he pulled a gun on them. In fact, I drank a beer. Right then and there. Fuck him.

    He's lucky my ex didn't put one through his head, I reckon she is too.

    TPD did though. Those problems are now solved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    How many people are killed every year by the police? What is the breakdown by gender, race, economics, state, etc?

    I've looked for a link to the data and there is no Federal or collective group of states and their PDs compiling the data.

    How can we correct problems if we don't know the extent of the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No due process? Remember all the bitching, screaming and moaning by the Right over 'due process' when Obama authorized running a Hellfire missile up a terrorist's ass?
    Due process no longer applies when you start fighting cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    QED. Like the Trumpsters, all you have are insults, lies and then you ignore those who have different views than your own.

    I posted about collecting data and body cams. Your response "Fuck off" and "asshole troll". Why? Because all you want to do spread hate against others and "defund the police". Anyone who has alternative solutions is an "asshole troll" in your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Chauvin did not use deadly force.
    He like, choked the dude to death, but then there's that Fentanyl factor.

    I bet if no Fentanyl, George Floyd (AKA Major Bootlip) would not have died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Due process no longer applies when you start fighting cops.
    Whadda they call that? Oh yeah! "BLEO"

    You do NOT want one of those.

    Battery against a Law Enforcement Officer.

    Not sure what degree felony it is, but not a good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I'll just suggest that you don't walk around Boston with your ugly toy.
    If I were being my usual prick self, I'd suggest that you did.
    I'd suggest you don't don't walk around West Tampa. They would not suffer you, at all.
    Most likely you'd get rolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    According to me: That puts me on the common sense level. Don't mess with the popo here, they will kick your ass. I have friends and family in that dept.

    They didn't set the rules, but the rules are there. As for me, I'm gonna abide by them.

    If you only knew..LOL!

    Explain to me what's wrong with my mindset, pls.
    the bolded part explains it all...........It's the same mindset of some of my own family members who part of law enforcement
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Due process no longer applies when you start fighting cops.
    wait.......what?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    He like, choked the dude to death, but then there's that Fentanyl factor.

    I bet if no Fentanyl, George Floyd (AKA Major Bootlip) would not have died.
    what's your medical degree in that puts your odds in your favor for that bet?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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