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    What if the bat viruses infected some intermediate host first? You would need a longstanding population of bats in frequent proximity with an intermediate host, which in turn must often cross paths with people. All these exchanges of virus must take place somewhere outside Wuhan, a busy metropolis which so far as is known is not a natural habitat of Rhinolophus bat colonies. The infected person (or animal) carrying this highly transmissible virus must have traveled to Wuhan without infecting anyone else. No one in his or her family got sick. If the person jumped on a train to Wuhan, no fellow passengers fell ill.

    It’s a stretch, in other words, to get the pandemic to break out naturally outside Wuhan and then, without leaving any trace, to make its first appearance there.

    For the lab escape scenario, a Wuhan origin for the virus is a no-brainer. Wuhan is home to China’s leading center of coronavirus research where, as noted above, researchers were genetically engineering bat coronaviruses to attack human cells. They were doing so under the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 lab. If a virus with the unexpected infectiousness of SARS2 had been generated there, its escape would be no surprise.

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    Much of Dr. Shi’s work on gain-of-function in coronaviruses was performed at the BSL2 safety level, as is stated in her publications and other documents. She has said in an interview with Science magazine that “The coronavirus research in our laboratory is conducted in BSL-2 or BSL-3 laboratories.”

    “It is clear that some or all of this work was being performed using a biosafety standard — biosafety level 2, the biosafety level of a standard US dentist’s office — that would pose an unacceptably high risk of infection of laboratory staff upon contact with a virus having the transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2,” says Dr. Ebright.

    “It also is clear,” he adds, “that this work never should have been funded and never should have been performed.”

    This is a view he holds regardless of whether or not the SARS2 virus ever saw the inside of a lab.

    Concern about safety conditions at the Wuhan lab was not, it seems, misplaced. According to a fact sheet issued by the State Department on January 21,2021, “ The U.S. government has reason to believe that several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Like Daszak, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House’s medical adviser, has also thrown cold water on the lab-leak theory, even though many scientists and government officials have now begun to acknowledge its plausibility. But keep in mind: as head of the NIH’s Allergy and Infectious Diseases department, Fauci was one of the government officials responsible for securing federal grants for Wuhan’s coronavirus research in the first place.

    He is a more interested party than most people realize.

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    Indeed he is, and not a lot of people are aware of that because the media is dutifully doing their duty as running dogs for democrats—and, the CCP.

    At least it certainly appears that way. At any rate, they have worked hard on the fake narrative that the lab origin theory is a conspiracy theory and that the CCP virus had a natural origin.

    The actual fact is both theories lack definitive evidence and the question of how the virus originated is wide open; and if anything, the lab theory has stronger circumstantial evidence for it. But since Fauci could be implicated if the lab theory proved to be true—well, let’s just not go there, says the media. So natural origin it is.

    Leaving the question of origin aside, wtf with funding gain of function research in a communist country with US tax dollars? I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Who’s idea was this? Fauci’s?

    You’d think by now Congress would have Fauci and other heads of the medical bureaucracy appear before a committee to answer some questions about this. I wish it were hard to believe, but it’s plausible many of them are unaware of it.

    And the Daszak character is one of the lead proponents to the natural origin theory but he also heads an organization that was funding GOF research in Wuhan. I think that’s called a conflict of interest so his opinion should be taken with a hefty grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    It matters if it came from a lab and we were funding the GOF research that led to the pandemic.

    You don’t think that matters? A bit?


    I notice Trumfuck posts are infused with a whole lotta if/when and never any now, facts or evidence.
    If you have any evidence [tiresome appeals to authority don’t count] in support of either theory I’ll be happy to look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    When we get to the end of all of this what we know for sure is your guy fucked up
    Trump Trump Trump lol.
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    Given the rate of sloppy work, poor quality, and indifference often shown in Chinese industry and commerce, I'd say there's a damn good, near certain, chance it escaped that Wuhan lab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    What if the bat viruses infected some intermediate host first? You would need a longstanding population of bats in frequent proximity with an intermediate host, which in turn must often cross paths with people. All these exchanges of virus must take place somewhere outside Wuhan, a busy metropolis which so far as is known is not a natural habitat of Rhinolophus bat colonies. The infected person (or animal) carrying this highly transmissible virus must have traveled to Wuhan without infecting anyone else. No one in his or her family got sick. If the person jumped on a train to Wuhan, no fellow passengers fell ill.

    It’s a stretch, in other words, to get the pandemic to break out naturally outside Wuhan and then, without leaving any trace, to make its first appearance there.

    For the lab escape scenario, a Wuhan origin for the virus is a no-brainer. Wuhan is home to China’s leading center of coronavirus research where, as noted above, researchers were genetically engineering bat coronaviruses to attack human cells. They were doing so under the minimal safety conditions of a BSL2 lab. If a virus with the unexpected infectiousness of SARS2 had been generated there, its escape would be no surprise.
    The circumstantial evidence points to the lab to such an extent that it started in the lab—until proven otherwise.

    As far I’m concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    It matters if it came from a lab and we were funding the GOF research that led to the pandemic.

    You don’t think that matters? A bit?


    I notice Trumfuck posts are infused with a whole lotta if/when and never any now, facts or evidence.

    Trump supporters are all moronic assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Given the rate of sloppy work, poor quality, and indifference often shown in Chinese industry and commerce, I'd say there's a damn good, near certain, chance it escaped that Wuhan lab.
    Add to that the usual suspects seem awful anxious to consider the matter ‘settled’ in spite of the fact there’s no way to rule out the lab at this point. And they only have conjecture in support of the natural theory.

    The whole charade is likely the biggest Cluster F* in the history of humanity. And that’s not hyperbole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Trump supporters are all moronic assholes.
    Trump Trump Trump lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
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    yeah, you're a moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It matters if it came from a lab and we were funding the GOF research that led to the pandemic.

    You don’t think that matters? A bit?
    What the fuck is going to change with this information? Nothing, that's what. So it's meaningless, it doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Pretty much. Not just Biden, but almost everyone in a seat of power now.
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    Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    As many people know, there are two main theories about its origin. One is that it jumped naturally from wildlife to people.

    The other is that the virus was under study in a lab, from which it escaped. It matters a great deal which is the case if we hope to prevent a second such occurrence.

    I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts.

    Early on, public and media perceptions were shaped in favor of the natural emergence scenario by strong statements from two scientific groups.

    These statements were not at first examined as critically as they should have been.


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    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

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