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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    The IP number to my router is 192.168.1.1. I dare you to hack it and collect information from it.
    So what do you use for DNS lookup? That is in a reserved private address range. Those are not routable on a public network, typically that address is used as a default gateway address.

    192.168.0.0/16 IP addresses:
    192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255

    You must be able to route to a DNS server to access the internet. Do you use standard DNS addresses provided by your ISP or have you changed to a more secure DNS server like Cloudflare, OpenNIC or OpenDNS (208.67. 220.220 and 208.67. 222.222)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    So what do you use for DNS lookup? That is in a reserved private address range. Those are not routable on a public network, typically that address is used as a default gateway address.

    192.168.0.0/16 IP addresses:
    192.168.0.0 – 192.168.255.255

    You must be able to route to a DNS server to access the internet. Do you use standard DNS addresses provided by your ISP or have you changed to a more secure DNS server like Cloudflare, OpenNIC or OpenDNS (208.67. 220.220 and 208.67. 222.222)?
    Looks like you called somebody's bluff ... good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I find it hard to believe that anything found on a router is going to reveal the social security number of Maricopa residents or put law enforcement lives at risk as claimed in the OP article......
    Me too. A router is pretty much a modem. How much cache do they have?

    There's no big bunch of memory or hard storage in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Because the court says they have to.
    He's the JPP resident village idiot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Me too. A router is pretty much a modem. How much cache do they have?

    There's no big bunch of memory or hard storage in there.
    A modem is a point to point device incapable of switching layer 3 IP traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    A modem is a point to point device incapable of switching layer 3 IP traffic.
    Ya be doin a bunch a learnin folks here ... be ya a learner or sumptin ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Make they auditors analyze the routers in the presence of law enforcement and their computer experts to make sure they only use the portions that concern the election.
    That sounds like a great idea. (NOT)
    It means they can't download or use a computer to search the logs which would require the read through the logs line by line. That would only take a couple of people about 10 years to do with a law enforcement official over their shoulder being paid by the auditing company. You better start donating to CyberNinjas now because they are going to need a lot of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Any organisation that doesn't change passwords on a regular basis hardly deserves to stay in business.
    Sure. And how do you make sure that everyone with a mobile device that can connect to your wifi has deleted all the old wifi passwords on all their devices? A device that automatically connects will automatically connect to any signal with the old SSID and password if it is available. It is extremely easy to set up a man in the middle attack if you know the SSID and password they are trying to automatically connect to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    Ya be doin a bunch a learnin folks here ... be ya a learner or sumptin ???
    Worked for T-Mobile for 13 years as a networking engineer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    That sounds like a great idea. (NOT)
    It means they can't download or use a computer to search the logs which would require the read through the logs line by line. That would only take a couple of people about 10 years to do with a law enforcement official over their shoulder being paid by the auditing company. You better start donating to CyberNinjas now because they are going to need a lot of money.
    Naww it can easily be done with computers without permanently retaining the unneeded data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Me too. A router is pretty much a modem. How much cache do they have?

    There's no big bunch of memory or hard storage in there.
    LOL, keep your day job. A router is NOTHING like a modem. A modem connects your intranet to the internet. Your router assigns IP addresses on your network. It contains a ton of information. There is a 'bunch of memory' on a router, and it stores browsing histories, passwords, tons of information about devices that accessed it. Good grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Naww it can easily be done with computers without permanently retaining the unneeded data.
    Could it be done? Yes, but it would require some major security. Any computers used would not be able to be attached to any network. No one would be allowed to use any removable data device. No phones or cameras would be allowed. It must occur in a secure room. Nothing with data can leave the room. All computers used must be securely wiped after the audit is done. A forensic audit doesn't occur in a few hours. It will take days or weeks.

    Cyberninjas is going to need a lot of money to follow the security you say would be needed. You better start donating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    LOL, keep your day job. A router is NOTHING like a modem. A modem connects your intranet to the internet. Your router assigns IP addresses on your network. It contains a ton of information. There is a 'bunch of memory' on a router, and it stores browsing histories, passwords, tons of information about devices that accessed it. Good grief.
    Okay, so what amount of memory does a router have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Okay, so what amount of memory does a router have?
    Hey, have you heard of that flash memory stuff, Sheriff Woody?

    They generally have between 128 MB and 1 Gig of memory. In other words more than enough to hold all of that information and more.

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