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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    You really have not proven in your OP that Unions set any policies. THE ADMINISTRATION SETS POLICIES BASED UPON THE VERY BEST FACTUAL AND PROVEN INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THEM.

    Labor Unions set standards for the workers they represent- and lobby the government, the public, and EMPLOYERS to adhere to them.

    And you have not proven that any Labor Union, is making it possible for anyone anywhere to skip work and still get paid. THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. A Labor Union may make suggestions or base their opinions- BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CARRY IT OUT!

    BUT DO KEEP HOPELESSLY FLAILING YOUR LITTLE WINGS, fanning the flames of discourse and confusion, TRYING TO CONVINCE SOME FOOL SOMEWHERE WITH YOUR DISINFORMATION- AND BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE, TRYING TO SCORE SOME CHEAP SHOT POLITICAL POINT!

    QUESTION IS- WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU NOT OUT THERE WORKING TODAY- INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL OF YOUR AVAILABLE TIME HERE TODAY CRYING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT UNIONS?

    they got to dictate that schools stay closed. the emails prove that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    they got to dictate that schools stay closed. the emails prove that.
    I'm not here to argue- SO WE WILL JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE.

    THE CDC MADE RECOMMENDATIONS SURE, BUT THE DECISIONS TO REMAIN OPEN, RE-OPEN, OR CLOSE SCHOOLS HAS BEEN WITH STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, AND PRIVATE SCHOOL ADMINISTARTORS ALL ALONG- NOT TEACHERS UNIONS..........

    .........................JUST AS UNIVERSITIES, TRADE SCHOOLS, BARBER AND BEAUTY COLLEGES, AND WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR GUITAR LESSONS!

    It's not just Public Schools that shut down!

    Perhaps your lack of understanding comes from a lack of wanting to understand- BECAUSE IT IS NOT PLAYING INTO YOUR ULTERIOR POLITICAL MOTIVATIONS!
    Last edited by Geeko Sportivo; 05-07-2021 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reagan...h-cdc-n2588838


    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Townhall Tipsheet Reagan McCarthy
    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Reagan McCarthyReagan McCarthy|Posted: May 02, 2021 9:40 AM

    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Source: AP Photo/Susan Walsh, Pool


    Newly-surfaced emails between teachers union executives and officials working for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) show that the unions played a role in crafting the language of the CDC’s school reopening guidelines, The New York Post reported.

    The emails show that CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky coordinated with American Federation of Teachers (AFT) on language for the guidelines, and the union even described the CDC as its “thought partner.”

    “We were able to review a copy of the draft guidance document over the weekend and were able to provide some initial feedback to several staff this morning about possible ways to strengthen the document,” AFT senior director Kelly Trautner wrote in an email to coronavirus mitigation officials. “…We believe our experiences on the ground can inform and enrich thinking around what is practicable and prudent in future guidance documents.”

    A spokesperson for Walensky denied any political interference in the creation of the guidelines for school reopening:

    “As part of long-standing best practices, CDC has traditionally engaged with organizations and groups that are impacted by guidance and recommendations issued by the agency,” spokesperson Jason McDonald told The Post. “These informative and helpful interactions often result in beneficial feedback that we consider in our final revisions to ensure clarity and usability.”


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    While these interactions occurred, Congressional Democrats also enjoyed an influx of donations from teachers unions for siding with them in the debate over reopening schools.
    Who would be more qualified to set standards than the teachers' unions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I'n not here to argues- SO WE WILL JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. THE CDC MADE RECOMMENDATIONS SURE, BUT THE DECISIONS TO REMAIN OPEN , RE-OPEN, OR CLOSE SCHOOLS HAS BEEN WITH STATE AND LOCAL SCHOOL OFFICIALS ALL ALONG- NOT TEACHERS UNIONS!
    Eagle-eyed observers may note that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) changed its guidance for school distancing from six feet to three feet last month, thus removing the rationale Blue York Shitty and other blue-state schools had.

    But the United Federation of Teachers (UFT) has an outsized influence on the city's Department of Education (DOE), so the city is slow-walking to the finish line of 2020–21.

    "On Wednesday," a nearby elementary school principal emailed parents last week, "we were asked to 'await further guidance' in planning for 3 ft. distancing. We believe this may be because UFT and DOE have not reached an agreement on the distancing change. We cannot move forward until this is resolved." (In classic Blue York misgovernance fashion, the DOE immediately disputed this, though the delays on the ground remain.)

    Public schools are flush with federal dollars. If they aren't open today, it's because they don't want to be.


    https://reason.com/2021/04/19/republicans-open-schools-democrats-still-keeping-them-closed/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftyDicklick View Post
    Who would be more qualified to set standards than the teachers' unions?
    Science ™.

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    THAT IS AN ASTUTE OBSERVATION I EXPECT FROM YOU.
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    One has to wonder why he spends 24 hours here on JPP where nobody listens instead of spending on those major forums and sites.
    THAT IS AN ASTUTE OBSERVATION I EXPECT FROM YOU.
    Yo so ugly yo momma tied meats around your neck so you can pet the dogs but it turned the dogs into liberal veggies.
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    Science does not use supporting evidence. It only uses conflicting evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Science ™.
    Science is the product of teachers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftyDicklick View Post
    Science is the product of teachers.
    Is that so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that so?
    It is indeed.
    Scientists teach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Eagle-eyed observers may note that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) changed its guidance for school distancing from six feet to three feet last month, thus removing the rationale Blue York Shitty and other blue-state schools had.

    But the United Federation of Teachers (UFT) has an outsized influence on the city's Department of Education (DOE), so the city is slow-walking to the finish line of 2020–21.

    "On Wednesday," a nearby elementary school principal emailed parents last week, "we were asked to 'await further guidance' in planning for 3 ft. distancing. We believe this may be because UFT and DOE have not reached an agreement on the distancing change. We cannot move forward until this is resolved." (In classic Blue York misgovernance fashion, the DOE immediately disputed this, though the delays on the ground remain.)

    Public schools are flush with federal dollars. If they aren't open today, it's because they don't want to be.
    Hey Shit-for-brains!

    DO YOU THINK PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE ONLY SCHOOLS THAT SHUT DOWN- or are still shutdown?

    "LOOK- OVER THERE- SHINEY"!

    GIVE US A BREAK AND STFU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Hey Shit-for-brains! DO YOU THINK PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE ONLY SCHOOLS THAT SHUT DOWN- or still shutdown?
    Do you?

    What's that got to do with public education unions exercising undue influence on health policy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    I'm not here to argue-
    Then what's the point of you being here at all?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reagan...h-cdc-n2588838


    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Townhall Tipsheet Reagan McCarthy
    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Reagan McCarthyReagan McCarthy|Posted: May 02, 2021 9:40 AM

    Report: Teachers Unions Influenced Biden Administration's School Reopening Guidance
    Source: AP Photo/Susan Walsh, Pool


    Newly-surfaced emails between teachers union executives and officials working for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) show that the unions played a role in crafting the language of the CDC’s school reopening guidelines, The New York Post reported.

    The emails show that CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky coordinated with American Federation of Teachers (AFT) on language for the guidelines, and the union even described the CDC as its “thought partner.”

    “We were able to review a copy of the draft guidance document over the weekend and were able to provide some initial feedback to several staff this morning about possible ways to strengthen the document,” AFT senior director Kelly Trautner wrote in an email to coronavirus mitigation officials. “…We believe our experiences on the ground can inform and enrich thinking around what is practicable and prudent in future guidance documents.”

    A spokesperson for Walensky denied any political interference in the creation of the guidelines for school reopening:

    “As part of long-standing best practices, CDC has traditionally engaged with organizations and groups that are impacted by guidance and recommendations issued by the agency,” spokesperson Jason McDonald told The Post. “These informative and helpful interactions often result in beneficial feedback that we consider in our final revisions to ensure clarity and usability.”


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