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    4,576 deaths and
    199,213 injuries

    reported to the European database of adverse vaccine reactions COVID-19
    , but hey, “vaccines” are “”safe””.


    The European database of suspected drug reaction reports, EudraVigilance, collects, among other reports, reports of injuries and deaths after people have been vaccinated against COVID. So far it has collected at least 4,576 reports of deaths and 199,213 of injuries from people who received some of the four experimental vaccines approved at this time within the European Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    4,576 deaths and
    199,213 injuries

    reported to the European database of adverse vaccine reactions COVID-19
    , but hey, “vaccines” are “”safe””.


    The European database of suspected drug reaction reports, EudraVigilance, collects, among other reports, reports of injuries and deaths after people have been vaccinated against COVID. So far it has collected at least 4,576 reports of deaths and 199,213 of injuries from people who received some of the four experimental vaccines approved at this time within the European Union.

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    The left doesnt give a fuck. they will push this shit until we are all dead

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    EudraVigilance was launched by the European Medicines Agency in 2012 to provide public access to reports of suspected side effects. These reports are submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorizations (licenses) for medicines.

    Its report through March 20, 2021 lists 4,576 deaths and 199,213 injuries following injections of four of the currently approved experimental vaccines:

    MODERNA – COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE (CX-024414).
    PFIZER-BIONTECH – COVID-19 mRNA VACCINE
    COVID-19 VACCINE ASTRAZENECA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19)
    COVID-19 JANSSEN VACCINE (AD26.COV2.S )

    A subscriber to the Health Impact News website in Europe undertook the task of being able to expand on the details in the reports of each of the four COVID-19 injections included here. This subscriber volunteered to do this, and it is a lot of work to tabulate each reaction with injuries and deaths, as there is no place in the EudraVigilance system that allows all the results to be tabulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    The left doesnt give a fuck. they will push this shit until we are all dead
    I've never in my life seen anything like this. We have a government and media pushing the population to extreme fear levels and then the coercion began ...... restrictions on travel, employment schooling.

    These injections are experimental and the entire population of the world is being subjected to them.

    The PCR test is a piece of garbage that can be manipulated to make anyone positive.

    Inexpensive cures have been suppressed.

    The Flu virus is being reported as Covid.

    Cause of deaths in hospitals are routinely falsified and misclassified.

    And they want me to take this injection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    I've never in my life seen anything like this. We have a government and media pushing the population to extreme fear levels and then the coercion began ...... restrictions on travel, employment schooling.

    These injections are experimental and the entire population of the world is being subjected to them.

    The PCR test is a piece of garbage that can be manipulated to make anyone positive.

    Inexpensive cures have been suppressed.

    The Flu virus is being reported as Covid.

    Cause of deaths in hospitals are routinely falsified and misclassified.

    And they want me to take this injection?
    The left has grabbed onto this "crisis" and they are making the most of it. They have been working for decades to make people utterly fucking brain dead. They even pass out degress to the most advanced brain dead amongst the population.

    they have convinced people if you have a penis then you are a female so scaring them into submission is easy. these idiots actually refuse to think until someine tells then what to think then its gospel.

    Its a shame what the shit eating leftists have done to this country

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    Hello and welcome QuaseMarco,

    Please allow me to first explain a bit about my approach to posting here. This is a rough place where people are nasty. I neither come here for that, nor tolerate it. Hence, my own personal rules are more strict than the site rules. I have lots of friends here, and I also have a very large permanent and irreversible Ignore List.

    I talk to lots of people with many various views all over the political spectrum, although I have noticed that extremists on both sides usually are unable to conduct respectful civil discourse with people with whom they disagree. You and I disagree on the use of corona vaccines. I hope that doesn't mean we can't talk about it in a civil way. Here's how I roll:

    Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

    If you're good with that, I hope we have lots of interesting and informative discussions. If not, we probably won't be talking long.

    Let's try some civil discourse...

    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    I've never in my life seen anything like this.
    Nobody has. It's a novel virus.

    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    We have a government and media pushing the population to extreme fear levels and then the coercion began ...... restrictions on travel, employment schooling.

    These injections are experimental and the entire population of the world is being subjected to them.

    The PCR test is a piece of garbage that can be manipulated to make anyone positive.

    Inexpensive cures have been suppressed.

    The Flu virus is being reported as Covid.

    Cause of deaths in hospitals are routinely falsified and misclassified.

    And they want me to take this injection?
    The government is not 'pushing fear.' The government is understandably responding to a health threat which is destroying hundreds of thousands of citizens.

    If there were any inexpensive cures, they would be utilized. There is no logical reason to suppress a readily available inexpensive cure. That makes no sense.

    There is evidence that the causes of deaths are being manipulated - by Republican governors and governments for the purpose of suppressing just how widespread the pandemic really is. Elected office-holders who are bought out by big money are under pressure to keep the economy open and the money flowing into the coffers of the already-rich.

    Everyone should get the vaccine. It is the patriotic thing to do. No, we do not know if there might be possible side effects. Life is like that. There is no ultimate security. Each day could bring a new threat. The most dangerous thing most Americans do is get in their car and start driving. Each of us could die on any day. There are no guarantees. That's life. Taking the vaccine is a calculated risk. People in the high risk group are quite motivated to take it for very good reason. Others might be reluctant, and cite reasonable objections.

    One thing is certain. We are all in this together. We don't wear masks to protect ourselves. We wear them for the same reason surgeons wear masks in the OR - to protect others. Taking the vaccine is the American thing to do. By doing so, we take a slight risk of possible unknown future side effects, but we also protect ourselves and others and more importantly, we become part of a master plan to eliminate the virus. If every human took the vaccine, we would wipe out the virus in a matter of weeks.

    It is important to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible.

    We are in a race. It is vaccination vs mutation. We have a chance to eliminate this novel virus before it mutates into something else. And, given the chance, it could mutate into something more deadly. That would make everyone who declined the vaccine wish they had gotten it and been part of the collaborative to eliminate COVID-19.

    We are losing friends, neighbors, relatives and citizens. We can help prevent that by getting the vaccine. It is the least we can do. Soldiers join our military and risk their lives for our country. They knowingly face risk to serve our country. Police and fire workers sign up for very risky jobs, fully knowing that on any day they leave for work, they might not come home that night or ever. These people have dedicated themselves to our country and we hold them in high regard. Are they afraid? Yes. Do they let that prevent them from facing risk? No, they do not.

    I hold anyone who faces the risk and gets the vaccine in high regard for being part of the solution.
    Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello and welcome QuaseMarco,

    Please allow me to first explain a bit about my approach to posting here. This is a rough place where people are nasty. I neither come here for that, nor tolerate it. Hence, my own personal rules are more strict than the site rules. I have lots of friends here, and I also have a very large permanent and irreversible Ignore List.

    I talk to lots of people with many various views all over the political spectrum, although I have noticed that extremists on both sides usually are unable to conduct respectful civil discourse with people with whom they disagree. You and I disagree on the use of corona vaccines. I hope that doesn't mean we can't talk about it in a civil way. Here's how I roll:

    Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

    If you're good with that, I hope we have lots of interesting and informative discussions. If not, we probably won't be talking long.

    Let's try some civil discourse...



    Nobody has. It's a novel virus.



    The government is not 'pushing fear.' The government is understandably responding to a health threat which is destroying hundreds of thousands of citizens.

    If there were any inexpensive cures, they would be utilized. There is no logical reason to suppress a readily available inexpensive cure. That makes no sense.

    There is evidence that the causes of deaths are being manipulated - by Republican governors and governments for the purpose of suppressing just how widespread the pandemic really is. Elected office-holders who are bought out by big money are under pressure to keep the economy open and the money flowing into the coffers of the already-rich.

    Everyone should get the vaccine. It is the patriotic thing to do. No, we do not know if there might be possible side effects. Life is like that. There is no ultimate security. Each day could bring a new threat. The most dangerous thing most Americans do is get in their car and start driving. Each of us could die on any day. There are no guarantees. That's life. Taking the vaccine is a calculated risk. People in the high risk group are quite motivated to take it for very good reason. Others might be reluctant, and cite reasonable objections.

    One thing is certain. We are all in this together. We don't wear masks to protect ourselves. We wear them for the same reason surgeons wear masks in the OR - to protect others. Taking the vaccine is the American thing to do. By doing so, we take a slight risk of possible unknown future side effects, but we also protect ourselves and others and more importantly, we become part of a master plan to eliminate the virus. If every human took the vaccine, we would wipe out the virus in a matter of weeks.

    It is important to get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible.

    We are in a race. It is vaccination vs mutation. We have a chance to eliminate this novel virus before it mutates into something else. And, given the chance, it could mutate into something more deadly. That would make everyone who declined the vaccine wish they had gotten it and been part of the collaborative to eliminate COVID-19.

    We are losing friends, neighbors, relatives and citizens. We can help prevent that by getting the vaccine. It is the least we can do. Soldiers join our military and risk their lives for our country. They knowingly face risk to serve our country. Police and fire workers sign up for very risky jobs, fully knowing that on any day they leave for work, they might not come home that night or ever. These people have dedicated themselves to our country and we hold them in high regard. Are they afraid? Yes. Do they let that prevent them from facing risk? No, they do not.

    I hold anyone who faces the risk and gets the vaccine in high regard for being part of the solution.
    Your reasoning sounds cogent but you are most definitely opinionated pro-Government propaganda, anti-Republican. In fact as I read your post your rhetoric began to sound like that of a National Socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    The left doesnt give a fuck. they will push this shit until we are all dead
    Define "we."
    I might actually agree with you.

    As for the thread title, I thought QM was talking about condoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    The left doesnt give a fuck. they will push this shit until we are all dead
    Define "we."
    I might actually agree with you.

    As for the thread title, I thought QM was talking about condoms.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    Your reasoning sounds cogent but you are most definitely opinionated pro-Government propaganda, anti-Republican. In fact as I read your post your rhetoric began to sound like that of a National Socialist.
    So, your response to a cogent, well crafted and factual post is to call the poster a Nazi.

    Dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    I've never in my life seen anything like this. We have a government and media pushing the population to extreme fear levels and then the coercion began ...... restrictions on travel, employment schooling.

    These injections are experimental and the entire population of the world is being subjected to them.

    The PCR test is a piece of garbage that can be manipulated to make anyone positive.

    Inexpensive cures have been suppressed.

    The Flu virus is being reported as Covid.

    Cause of deaths in hospitals are routinely falsified and misclassified.

    And they want me to take this injection?
    Then don't. Your choice. Good luck getting on a plane. Or going to a movie. Or a restaurant. If you're okay with that, hide in your basement and avoid the vaccine. I'm fine with you not getting vaccinated. Darwin can do his work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Then don't. Your choice. Good luck getting on a plane. Or going to a movie. Or a restaurant. If you're okay with that, hide in your basement and avoid the vaccine. I'm fine with you not getting vaccinated. Darwin can do his work.
    I've been on a plane..... I go to restaurants...... I spent 6 weeks in Brazil in 2020 in August/September. Movie unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    So, your response to a cogent, well crafted and factual post is to call the poster a Nazi.

    Dismissed.
    All this shite about MY DUTY as an American ..... the PATRIOT thing to do .......... the hard line government trust..... it just led me there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    I've been on a plane..... I go to restaurants...... I spent 6 weeks in Brazil in 2020 in August/September. Movie unnecessary.
    Hope you enjoyed the flight. I suspect it will be your last. I'm sure the restaurants that appeal to ignorant antivaxxers will have you, but I don't go there anyway. Fine dining establishments will demand proof of vaccination. I can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    All this shite about MY DUTY as an American ..... the PATRIOT thing to do .......... the hard line government trust..... it just led me there.
    Because that's where you wanted to go. You see yourself as a victim. We see you as a nitwit. That doesn't make us Nazis. It makes us intelligent, and you ignorant. Obviously, you don't care about your country. You don't have to. We'll let you stay anyway.,

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