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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Those who are responsible for how we got here and gone. If they could see where we're headed, would they have had the will to get us there?
    I'm pretty sure our founders are rolling in their grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    I'm pretty sure our founders are rolling in their grave.
    As our WWI and WWII vets are.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Badge of honor. I respect that. I tried to be “polite” to that passive aggressive twat for a couple of months when she responded to me (don’t think I ever replied to her) until I couldn’t take it anymore.
    She's a typical narrow-minded DemoKKKrat psychopath/fascist.

    She's everything she claims to hate and fear.
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    Hello goat,

    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    Because of my long goatee, I am constantly profiled by police who demand to see my ID -- even though there is no law requiring me to carry or show ID. A vaccine certificate is just another excuse for militarized police to stop law abiding citizens and demand to see their papers. There's a movement of young folk who instigate contact with police for the sole purpose of refusing to show their ID. They get beat up and arrested for daring to exercise their constitutional rights but it's all caught on video, so cops are being disciplined and cities are paying the lawsuits.

    30 years ago, Chomsky was like a god to me but the older I get the more I realize he throws interference for the undemocratic party. He wants young folk to vote for Hillary and Biden and give up their push for a 3rd party. Like all great writers, Chomsky wants to preserve his legacy in government owned media at the cost of new generations laughing at him.
    Nobody likes being accosted by police. The thing to know is: they are not all the same. They look the same, all wearing similar uniforms, but that's deceptive. Some of them are real jerks on a power trip. Others are VERY cool. We can't judge them all by the appearance. That is a huge mistake. They are people, like anybody else. They have taken on a job that most people do not want to do. We don't like it when they come down on us, but we have to have them out there doing their thing.

    I love hearing Chomsky. He is so wise. I'm sure he wishes we had a better liberal party than the Democratic party. But politics is messy and that means money is involved. BIG money. I see that as a big challenge for America to find a way past that. But for now it really messes up our vision of a government of the people, by the people, for the people. Nice saying, but we all know the score. It is a government of wealthy, by wealthy, and for wealthy.

    Did you watch that vid I posted?

    Isn't that interesting about the impact of people's views on the likelihood of a bill passing vs the impact of the views of the wealthy?

    It's like it doesn't matter what we the people want; It's all about what they the wealthy want.

    I think that's fixable, just not in an instant gratification way. It's gonna take a movement and a long time. It could be decades.

    It's hard to hold onto a vision that might take to long that people could fight for it all their lives and it doesn't happen until another generation takes it up and pushes it across the finish line.

    Look how long it has taken to get legal pot. 50 years and still working on it.
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    The original human rights thing wasn't for the people.

    It was for the wealthy.

    It was called Magna Carta.

    This battle of the power of wealth has been going on longer than the USA has even been around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello goat,



    Nobody likes being accosted by police. The thing to know is: they are not all the same. They look the same, all wearing similar uniforms, but that's deceptive. Some of them are real jerks on a power trip. Others are VERY cool. We can't judge them all by the appearance. That is a huge mistake. They are people, like anybody else. They have taken on a job that most people do not want to do. We don't like it when they come down on us, but we have to have them out there doing their thing.

    I love hearing Chomsky. He is so wise. I'm sure he wishes we had a better liberal party than the Democratic party. But politics is messy and that means money is involved. BIG money. I see that as a big challenge for America to find a way past that. But for now it really messes up our vision of a government of the people, by the people, for the people. Nice saying, but we all know the score. It is a government of wealthy, by wealthy, and for wealthy.

    Did you watch that vid I posted?

    Isn't that interesting about the impact of people's views on the likelihood of a bill passing vs the impact of the views of the wealthy?

    It's like it doesn't matter what we the people want; It's all about what they the wealthy want.

    I think that's fixable, just not in an instant gratification way. It's gonna take a movement and a long time. It could be decades.

    It's hard to hold onto a vision that might take to long that people could fight for it all their lives and it doesn't happen until another generation takes it up and pushes it across the finish line.

    Look how long it has taken to get legal pot. 50 years and still working on it.
    The US is projected to end up with close to 100 million people who refuse a vaccine. If government continues to squeeze people to get vaccinated, quite a few independents and democrats will vote republican in 2022 and 2024. Ironically, a party divided will unite over the right to choose what they do with their own body. This brings us back to our culture war, the tinderbox known as the US is about to ignite.

    Yes, I saw that video awhile back.

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    Hello goat,

    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    The US is projected to end up with close to 100 million people who refuse a vaccine. If government continues to squeeze people to get vaccinated, quite a few independents and democrats will vote republican in 2022 and 2024. Ironically, a party divided will unite over the right to choose what they do with their own body. This brings us back to our culture war, the tinderbox known as the US is about to ignite.

    Yes, I saw that video awhile back.
    I would be pretty surprised if people switch and vote for Republicans over vaccines. And that will be kind of old news by the fall of 22.

    The Republicans have made The Big Lie their standard of acceptance. If they continue to cling to that I don't think that's going to make it very easy to draw in new voters.
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