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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    They are consistently wrong when measured against facts and history.

    The AP and Hillary lied about Khaddaffi to justify his murder, plunging Libya into an ISIS turf war.

    I even know why they did it.

    Think about it, Obama was taking selfies with Khaddafi and having sleepovers with him a few short months before all this happened.

    I found that odd, so did some digging.

    On a similar line..

    Assad didn't use chemical weapons on his own people or the rebels.

    Russians tracked the "rebels" (ISIS) to a warehouse in a district and called in an air strike where all the rats were gathered.

    It turned out to be a chemical weapons dump and all the crap got released when they bombed it.

    The AP told a much different story.
    It wasn't Obama having sleepovers with Gadaffi
    Muammar Gaddafi pitched his tent on an estate belonging to Donald Trump in suburban New York yesterday, according to reports.

    The Libyan leader is scheduled to attend the UN general assembly this week. He had been struggling to find a plot to accommodate the large Bedouin tent he takes with him when travelling abroad.

    Workers were seen yesterday erecting a tent and satellites in the glamorous neighbourhood of Bedford on an estate owned by Trump. Local officials tried to stop them, saying it was illegal to build a temporary residence without a permit. An ABC News helicopter filmed a large tent on the 113-acre Seven Springs estate, with rugs and patterned wall hangings. Green and yellow fabric lined the walls in a pattern dotted with images of small brown camels, according to a local newspaper website image. Last night a state department official told AP the tent might be used for entertaining by Gadaffi, but he would not be sleeping there.

    Doors all over New York have been slammed in the colonel's face, but Trump says he has rented part of a large property in Westchester county to Middle Eastern tenants who may be associated with Gadaffi.

    Gadaffi last month wanted to erect a tent in New Jersey, where the Libyan embassy owns property, but the US government said he could not. A request to set up tent in Central Park was also turned down.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-trump-estate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It's not his fault you refuse to view things objectively.

    Bleat some moar, Sheepy.

    BAAAAAAA!
    So, you don't believe the intelligence community assessment that Russia interfered in the 2020 election because.......

    Go ahead, finish the sentence. I'm curious what you'll say.

    Moar? ROTFLMFAO!!!! I'll bet the intelligence community knows how to spell 'more'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    So, you don't believe the intelligence community assessment that Russia interfered in the 2020 election because.......

    Go ahead, finish the sentence. I'm curious what you'll say.

    Moar? ROTFLMFAO!!!! I'll bet the intelligence community knows how to spell 'more'.


    A) I have not seen any evidence whatsoever of it. This is the 1st time today.

    B) If there had been, it would have run on all the propaganda outlets for at least a week or more.
    There would have have been hair-on-fire screeching and talking heads everywhere proclaiming it.

    C) The Propaganda outlets did run the trial balloon for it on 3/16/21 and it got no legs.

    D) Here is the real report:

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docum...ss-16MAR21.pdf

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    The report itself is to be taken with a grain of salt.

    TL: DR?

    It says Russia was against Biden and Iran was against Trump.

    So the next time you or one of your cohorts claims Trump did poorly with Covid-19 response, is that proof of being an Iranian shill?

    (Of course it's not)

    "Iran focused its social media and propaganda on perceived vulnerabilities in the United States, including the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, economic recession,
    and civil unrest."

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docum...ss-16MAR21.pdf

    Why did none of the news outlets emphasize that Iran was against Trump, hmm? If they reported the news objectively, they would have.

    It's things like this that let people know how biased the media is.

    Why does Twatter and FB allow several thousand shills from Iran and Russia to post on their platforms? Because that and a few spoofed emails are

    the extent of those countries' election meddling in 2020.

    If anything, Twitter and Facebook are complicit in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    A) I have not seen any evidence whatsoever of it. This is the 1st time today.

    B) If there had been, it would have run on all the propaganda outlets for at least a week or more.
    There would have have been hair-on-fire screeching and talking heads everywhere proclaiming it.

    C) The Propaganda outlets did run the trial balloon for it on 3/16/21 and it got no legs.

    D) Here is the real report:

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docum...ss-16MAR21.pdf

    "

    The report itself is to be taken with a grain of salt.

    TL: DR?

    It says Russia was against Biden and Iran was against Trump.

    So the next time you or one of your cohorts claims Trump did poorly with Covid-19 response, is that proof of being an Iranian shill?

    (Of course it's not)

    "Iran focused its social media and propaganda on perceived vulnerabilities in the United States, including the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, economic recession,
    and civil unrest."

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/docum...ss-16MAR21.pdf

    Why did none of the news outlets emphasize that Iran was against Trump, hmm? If they reported the news objectively, they would have.

    It's things like this that let people know how biased the media is.

    Why does Twatter and FB allow several thousand shills from Iran and Russia to post on their platforms? Because that and a few spoofed emails are

    the extent of those counries' election meddling in 2020.

    If anything, Twitter and Facebook are complicit in it.
    Irans interference was widely reported. But since you don't believe the report, that is meaningless to you. If you just heard about this today, you have been living in cave. The REPORT just came out yesterday, but that conclusion was also widely reported. Why did Facebook allow it? Allow what? You don't believe there was interference.

    Ooops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    It wasn't Obama having sleepovers with Gadaffi

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-trump-estate


    https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...forever-027485

    I guess the internet has been scrubbed or something, because I remember Obama hanging out with Khadaffi and taking pics in front of his flag.

    They were having a good ol' time, and it wasn't that long before Khadaffi was murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    It wasn't Obama having sleepovers with Gadaffi
    so what? is this supposed to be meaningful?
    Condi/Bush didnt bomb Libya and turn it into a failed terrorist ridden state as well

    Obama was honest enough to cal lit his "biggest failure" even though he blame shifted to Cameron (UK)
    That old crow Hillary still "stands by" her warmongering

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    so what? is this supposed to be meaningful?
    Condi/Bush didnt bomb Libya and turn it into a failed terrorist ridden state as well

    Obama was honest enough to cal lit his "biggest failure" even though he blame shifted to Cameron (UK)
    That old crow Hillary still "stands by" her warmongering
    bitter little Boris lol ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    In other words you have nothing. Except bad eyes. I knew that. You are full of shit, a paid Russian troll.
    i gave you plenty to chew on
    our role in the Euromaidan - proximate cause of the "police riot"
    the Russian bounties
    The facilitation of the assassination of Qadaffi,and the devolvement into a failed terrorist state
    the Iraq war
    9-11
    the Internet Research Agency (private entity)

    pick anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    i gave you plenty to chew on
    our role in the Euromaidan - proximate cause of the "police riot"
    the Russian bounties
    The facilitation of the assassination of Qadaffi,and the devolvement into a failed terrorist state
    the Iraq war
    9-11
    the Internet Research Agency (private entity)

    pick anything
    I didn't ask you to throw a bunch of shit on the wall to see what sticks. I posted an Intelligence Community assessment that states with high confidence that Russia interfered in the 2020 election. Please provide a source that refutes that assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I didn't ask you to throw a bunch of shit on the wall to see what sticks. I posted an Intelligence Community assessment that states with high confidence that Russia interfered in the 2020 election. Please provide a source that refutes that assessment.
    already done.see the post on Konstantin V. Kilimnik -hewas a Ukraine politic o etc.
    The rest is my supporting evidence the IC lies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post


    https://www.politico.com/story/2009/...forever-027485

    I guess the internet has been scrubbed or something, because I remember Obama hanging out with Khadaffi and taking pics in front of his flag.

    They were having a good ol' time, and it wasn't that long before Khadaffi was murdered.
    I think your memory has been scrubbed. Or maybe you were thinking of this leader?



    Obama did shake hands with Gadaffi at a meeting of world leaders but that isn't the same as hanging out and taking pics in front of his flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    already done.see the post on Konstantin V. Kilimnik -hewas a Ukraine politic o etc.
    The rest is my supporting evidence the IC lies
    He has nothing to do with the 2020 election. What source do you have that refutes the intelligence community assessment? Simple question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    already done.see the post on Konstantin V. Kilimnik -hewas a Ukraine politic o etc.
    The rest is my supporting evidence the IC lies
    So if a person lies then we can assume that everything they say is a lie?
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I think your memory has been scrubbed. Or maybe you were thinking of this leader?



    Obama did shake hands with Gadaffi at a meeting of world leaders but that isn't the same as hanging out and taking pics in front of his flag.
    No..Obama went over there. Sometime between 2008-2011.

    It'd be easier to find if there weren't so many various ways they spell Khadaffi.

    Some stuff has been scrubbed, other websites are no more. Tired of looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So if a person lies then we can assume that everything they say is a lie?
    I think the right question is 'if a person is wrong about something, then can we assume they are wrong about everything?'

    Of course not. The intelligence community puts levels of confidence on intelligence. It's like probabilities.

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