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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    How do you define atheist? Disbelieving a greater, spiritual power or disbelieving any existence beyond the mortal?
    Sometimes you have to go back to the definition of the time

    I’m not sure if it has evolved

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nietzsche said God does not exist. What more clarity could be given?
    "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." I think he meant this.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." I think he meant this.
    He absolutely does not.

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    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/....2007.10819958


    Young claims he was not anti religious

    But rejects the god of the time


    Sometimes he seems angry at the prevailing religion of the day to me

    I was too when I was young


    Then I realized the historical value of religion and its beginnings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    How do you define atheist? Disbelieving a greater, spiritual power or disbelieving any existence beyond the mortal?

    Are Buddhists atheists? Have you ever asked one if he was? It depends upon your definition of atheist. My definition is atheists deny existence beyond the physical. Anyone who believes in a spiritual existence and calls themselves an atheist is an idiot who needs to get off the computer and get out more.
    On this message board "atheist" is usually conflated with rejection of the Abrahamic god, the Judeo-Christian God.

    But I agree with you that when you start considering the religions of East Asia, South Asia, animist traditions of indigenous people of Africa and the Americas, it gets challenging to define what is really meant by atheism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Nietzsche said God does not exist. What more clarity could be given?
    People read Nietzsche for spiritual inspiration. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Sometimes you have to go back to the definition of the time

    I’m not sure if it has evolved
    Are there major atheistic societies in the past? Perhaps the same percentage as atheists in the present population?:


    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...bout-atheists/
    1. The share of Americans who identify as atheists has increased modestly but significantly in the past decade. Pew Research Center telephone surveys conducted in 2018 and 2019 show that 4% of American adults say they are atheists when asked about their religious identity, up from 2% in 2009. An additional 5% of Americans call themselves agnostics, up from 3% a decade ago.
    2. The literal definition of “atheist” is “a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods,” according to Merriam-Webster. And the vast majority of U.S. atheists fit this description: 81% say they do not believe in God or a higher power or in a spiritual force of any kind. (Overall, 10% of American adults share this view.) At the same time, roughly one-in-five self-described atheists (18%) say they do believe in some kind of higher power. None of the atheists we surveyed, however, say they believe in “God as described in the Bible.”


    BTW, despite the erroneous claims of certain atheists, "religiously unaffiliated" doesn't equal atheist. Atheists are "disbelievers" which means they have faith something doesn't exist without evidence their disbelief is true. The only purely logical, and honest, group in the entire spectrum are Agnostics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    "People who think they know everything annoy those of us that do." - Anon
    It annoys us who realize we don’t know everything too

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    People read Nietzsche for spiritual inspiration. Just saying.
    What book by Nietzsche gave you spiritual inspiration? Please share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    On this message board "atheist" is usually conflated with rejection of the Abrahamic god, the Judeo-Christian God.

    But I agree with you that when you start considering the religions of East Asia, South Asia, animist traditions of indigenous people of Africa and the Americas, it gets challenging to define what is really meant by atheism.
    An all knowing and all seeing god that runs all that exists


    That is my personal definition that made me check the atheist box


    There is no ONE power that controls all of existence


    It’s a dance of powers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Are there major atheistic societies in the past? Perhaps the same percentage as atheists in the present population?:


    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...bout-atheists/
    1. The share of Americans who identify as atheists has increased modestly but significantly in the past decade. Pew Research Center telephone surveys conducted in 2018 and 2019 show that 4% of American adults say they are atheists when asked about their religious identity, up from 2% in 2009. An additional 5% of Americans call themselves agnostics, up from 3% a decade ago.
    2. The literal definition of “atheist” is “a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods,” according to Merriam-Webster. And the vast majority of U.S. atheists fit this description: 81% say they do not believe in God or a higher power or in a spiritual force of any kind. (Overall, 10% of American adults share this view.) At the same time, roughly one-in-five self-described atheists (18%) say they do believe in some kind of higher power. None of the atheists we surveyed, however, say they believe in “God as described in the Bible.”


    BTW, despite the erroneous claims of certain atheists, "religiously unaffiliated" doesn't equal atheist. Atheists are "disbelievers" which means they have faith something doesn't exist without evidence their disbelief is true. The only purely logical, and honest, group in the entire spectrum are Agnostics.



    We may never know

    Christians often killed people before they understood their cultures fully


    Some cultures were never engaged by the wider world and took their course to non existence without being recorded by anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    An all knowing and all seeing god that runs all that exists

    That is my personal definition that made me check the atheist box

    There is no ONE power that controls all of existence

    It’s a dance of powers
    An early May the Fourth Be With You!

    My beliefs align more with Thomas Jefferson's on the God thing.

    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    What book by Nietzsche gave you spiritual inspiration? Please share.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    there is a lot to be said for the premise of making one's life a creative work of art, rather than investing energy in a socially/religiously constructed and conformist approach which dominated the 19th century.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Do you think Hegel was an atheist?
    I was under the impression he presented some unconventional hybrid of idealism, Christianity, and spirit.
    Oh, and, read the OP. I just recently got started on Nietzsche and find him very spiritual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    We may never know

    Christians often killed people before they understood their cultures fully

    Some cultures were never engaged by the wider world and took their course to non existence without being recorded by anyone
    Ahh, of course. I should have known you'd already identified all of those at fault and are now seeking to persecute them. How silly of me to forget.

    Lemme guess, they were all White Slaver Christians too, eh? Probably with beards and spoke with Southern accents?

    OTOH, if you believe that Christians have not proved to be much better, if any, than the fucking barbarians who preceded them, then I agree that there are too many who aren't any better.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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