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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Stalking is forbidden on this forum.
    Dude

    I am not following you around

    You are insane if you think I am

    You just seem to have lost it lately

    Your fricking weird anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Dude

    I am not following you around

    You are insane if you think I am

    You just seem to have lost it lately

    Your fricking weird anymore
    I will report you for stalking if you persist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Not an idealist or Christian.
    Hegel is a tough one for me to get my head around; to me his intellectual thought is esoteric and diffuse. I can grasp the basics of Plato, Locke, Kant, Nietzsche, et al., but I think Hegel might be out of my league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Hegel is a tough one for me to get my head around; to me his intellectual thought is esoteric and diffuse. I can grasp the basics of Plato, Locke, Kant, Nietzsche, et al., but I think Hegel might be out of my league.
    Hegel is an intuitive writer. That may sound false or comical but that is how I read him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I will report you for stalking if you persist.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jesus


    However Nietzsche did not demur of Jesus, saying he was the "only one true Christian". He presented a Christ whose own inner life consisted of "blessedness in peace, in gentleness, in the inability for enmity". There is much criticism by Nietzsche of the organized institution of Christianity and its class of priests. Christ's evangelism consisted of the good news that the kingdom of God is within you.[36] "What are the 'glad tidings'? True life, eternal life is found—it is not promised, it is here, it is within you: as life lived in love.... 'Sin', every kind of distancing relationship between God and man, is abolished - precisely this is the 'glad tidings'. The 'glad tidings' are precisely that there are no more opposites...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jesus


    However Nietzsche did not demur of Jesus, saying he was the "only one true Christian". He presented a Christ whose own inner life consisted of "blessedness in peace, in gentleness, in the inability for enmity". There is much criticism by Nietzsche of the organized institution of Christianity and its class of priests. Christ's evangelism consisted of the good news that the kingdom of God is within you.[36] "What are the 'glad tidings'? True life, eternal life is found—it is not promised, it is here, it is within you: as life lived in love.... 'Sin', every kind of distancing relationship between God and man, is abolished - precisely this is the 'glad tidings'. The 'glad tidings' are precisely that there are no more opposites...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Thank you for participating on my thread
    You are welcome

    It’s subject matter I’m interested in but have researched only rudimentarily in my life

    Mostly as a teen on my own

    I didn’t take any philosophy classes in college

    The closest thing was a world religions class


    Interesting subject


    It’s one of those subject that the people discussing it often turn into a battle of “ oh but I’m far better read than you”. Nonsense


    Which is antithetical to the whole idea of understanding man kind and the world


    I’ll keep following your threads and posts on the subject and learn more



    Please don’t mistake it for me stalking you

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Attributed to Nietzsche. But he got it from Hegel. What Hegel meant is that the history of God went from meaning everything to nothing.
    Back in the saddle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    Back in the saddle?
    another stalker

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You are welcome

    It’s subject matter I’m interested in but have researched only rudimentarily in my life

    Mostly as a teen on my own

    I didn’t take any philosophy classes in college

    The closest thing was a world religions class


    Interesting subject


    It’s one of those subject that the people discussing it often turn into a battle of “ oh but I’m far better read than you”. Nonsense


    Which is antithetical to the whole idea of understanding man kind and the world


    I’ll keep following your threads and posts on the subject and learn more



    Please don’t mistake it for me stalking you
    Ha! Don't worry, you do not even remotely seem like the staking type.

    I remember that you are one of the few posters who actually ever read Solzhenitsyn, so I recognize a deep well of intellectual curiosity in you.

    Nietzsche's rejection of any higher reality or spiritual truth must have been pretty shocking at the time, but I am beginning to see why many have found Nietzsche worth considering - there is a lot to be said for the premise of making one's life a creative work of art, rather than investing energy in a socially/religiously constructed and conformist approach which dominated the 19th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    another stalker
    I see you're using Google this time. Can you learn philosophy from an internet search?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    I see you're using Google this time. Can you learn philosophy from an internet search?
    Like I told the other stalker, I will report if you persist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Like I told the other stalker, I will report if you persist.
    European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.

    True or false?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    “God Is Dead”—Nietzsche and Christianity

    Friedrich Nietzsche famously announced that “God is Dead.” This is by no means merely a thesis about religion and religious belief. It relates to the whole mind-set of the West, the insistence on Eternity, the obsession with unity and coherence, the demands for predictability and justice in a world that is neither predictable or just. Nietzsche argues it is possible, is to rid ourselves of the pathologies of guilt and sin.

    1. Nietzsche disliked some things about Christianity, particularly what Kierkegaard calls “Christendom,” the Christian mob.
    2. Nietzsche admired those exceptional Christians (including Jesus) who really lived what they claimed to believe in.
    3. He objected to the hypocritical and self-righteous attitudes that some Christians take toward their religious beliefs.


    Nietzsche rejected Christianity, but he also accepted it as a necessary step in human evolution. It served an important historical function:
    1. Nietzsche praised the spirituality of Christianity.
    2. He saw the original teaching of Jesus as having been perverted by the Church.


    Nietzsche declared war on the concepts of guilt and sin. Like Freud, he finds guilt and sin psychologically debilitating.

    Nietzsche did retain the notion of conscience:
    1. Nietzsche did not give up spirituality but transformed it.
    2. Nietzsche wants to return us to a state of innocence, as opposed to guilt.
    3. He wants to return us to self-esteem, after science has shown us that we are not the center of the universe or the pinnacle of nature.
    4. Nietzsche calls for a spirituality of this world.




    Source credit: Professor Robert C. Solomon, University of Texas at Austin
    Nietzsche was a wise man although I only agree with the bolded parts. The two unbolded lack some caveats and amplifications.

    I don't see where any of the numbered items say or imply "God is Dead". He obviously has issues with religious dogma, but that's not the same thing.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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