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    “God Is Dead”—Nietzsche and Christianity

    Friedrich Nietzsche famously announced that “God is Dead.” This is by no means merely a thesis about religion and religious belief. It relates to the whole mind-set of the West, the insistence on Eternity, the obsession with unity and coherence, the demands for predictability and justice in a world that is neither predictable or just. Nietzsche argues it is possible, is to rid ourselves of the pathologies of guilt and sin.

    1. Nietzsche disliked some things about Christianity, particularly what Kierkegaard calls “Christendom,” the Christian mob.
    2. Nietzsche admired those exceptional Christians (including Jesus) who really lived what they claimed to believe in.
    3. He objected to the hypocritical and self-righteous attitudes that some Christians take toward their religious beliefs.

    Nietzsche rejected Christianity, but he also accepted it as a necessary step in human evolution. It served an important historical function:
    1. Nietzsche praised the spirituality of Christianity.
    2. He saw the original teaching of Jesus as having been perverted by the Church.

    Nietzsche declared war on the concepts of guilt and sin. Like Freud, he finds guilt and sin psychologically debilitating.

    Nietzsche did retain the notion of conscience:
    1. Nietzsche did not give up spirituality but transformed it.
    2. Nietzsche wants to return us to a state of innocence, as opposed to guilt.
    3. He wants to return us to self-esteem, after science has shown us that we are not the center of the universe or the pinnacle of nature.
    4. Nietzsche calls for a spirituality of this world.



    Source credit: Professor Robert C. Solomon, University of Texas at Austin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    “God Is Dead”—Nietzsche and Christianity

    Friedrich Nietzsche famously announced that “God is Dead.” This is by no means merely a thesis about religion and religious belief. It relates to the whole mind-set of the West, the insistence on Eternity, the obsession with unity and coherence, the demands for predictability and justice in a world that is neither predictable or just. Nietzsche argues it is possible, is to rid ourselves of the pathologies of guilt and sin.

    1. Nietzsche disliked some things about Christianity, particularly what Kierkegaard calls “Christendom,” the Christian mob.
    2. Nietzsche admired those exceptional Christians (including Jesus) who really lived what they claimed to believe in.
    3. He objected to the hypocritical and self-righteous attitudes that some Christians take toward their religious beliefs.

    Nietzsche rejected Christianity, but he also accepted it as a necessary step in human evolution. It served an important historical function:
    1. Nietzsche praised the spirituality of Christianity.
    2. He saw the original teaching of Jesus as having been perverted by the Church.

    Nietzsche declared war on the concepts of guilt and sin. Like Freud, he finds guilt and sin psychologically debilitating.

    Nietzsche did retain the notion of conscience:
    1. Nietzsche did not give up spirituality but transformed it.
    2. Nietzsche wants to return us to a state of innocence, as opposed to guilt.
    3. He wants to return us to self-esteem, after science has shown us that we are not the center of the universe or the pinnacle of nature.
    4. Nietzsche calls for a spirituality of this world.



    Source credit: Professor Robert C. Solomon, University of Texas at Austin

    Attributed to Nietzsche. But he got it from Hegel. What Hegel meant is that the history of God went from meaning everything to nothing.

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    "2. Nietzsche admired those exceptional Christians (including Jesus) who really lived what they claimed to believe in."

    This seems false.

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    "1. Nietzsche praised the spirituality of Christianity."

    Never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Attributed to Nietzsche. But he got it from Hegel. What Hegel meant is that the history of God went from meaning everything to nothing.
    I did not know that.
    I am making it a project to learn about Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I did not know that.
    I am making it a project to learn about Nietzsche
    "It [the unhappy consciousness] is the consciousness of the loss of all essential being in this certainty of itself, and of the loss even of this knowledge about itself--
    the loss of substance [Substanz ] as well as of the self, it is the grief which expresses itself in the harsh saying that ‘God is dead’"

    Hegel, Phenomenology of Spirit; ( PG 3:547/455)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "It [the unhappy consciousness] is the consciousness of the loss of all essential being in this certainty of itself, and of the loss even of this knowledge about itself--
    the loss of substance [Substanz ] as well as of the self, it is the grief which expresses itself in the harsh saying that ‘God is dead’"

    Hegel, Phenomenology of Spirit; ( PG 3:547/455)
    I thought I heard you say that you are leaving...

    WHEN?
    Tell the truth and then let the chips fall where they may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I am a troll, ignore me.
    Good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Good advice.
    BidenPresident, lying yet again...

    YUK
    Tell the truth and then let the chips fall where they may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "It [the unhappy consciousness] is the consciousness of the loss of all essential being in this certainty of itself, and of the loss even of this knowledge about itself--
    the loss of substance [Substanz ] as well as of the self, it is the grief which expresses itself in the harsh saying that ‘God is dead’"

    Hegel, Phenomenology of Spirit; ( PG 3:547/455)
    Do you think Hegel was an atheist?

    I was under the impression he presented some unconventional hybrid of idealism, Christianity, and spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Do you think Hegel was an atheist?

    I was under the impression he presented some unconventional hybrid of idealism, Christianity, and spirit.
    Not an idealist or Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "2. Nietzsche admired those exceptional Christians (including Jesus) who really lived what they claimed to believe in."

    This seems false.

    WTF?


    You are becoming very suspicious

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    DOnald Trump even SHIT-STAINED CHRISTIANITY!

    No one will ever look at Christians in the same light ever again!

    DONALD TRUMP DESTROYS EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES!


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    WTF?


    You are becoming very suspicious
    Stalking is forbidden on this forum.

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