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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Obviously you don't think so. Kind of sad. But I understand that you would believe that everyone shares your lack of integrity and honesty. We don't. My default position is that the jury viewed the evidence and rendered an appropriate verdict. Your default is that the jurors are cowards who lacked the integrity to reach the verdict they believed in. Which leaves you insulting the jury and claiming that a murderer is innocent in the same breath. Next question?
    Anyone who puts on their profile "retired teacher," but never was one, has zero integrity; good observation.
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    Minnesota speed limits are insain. Totally a police for revenue state. Minnesota is also a drive around state since theres no need to drive to canada for anything except dope...

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    I have seen very little mention of the fact that only the worst crime gets sentenced, the other two convictions are essentially meaningless.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I have seen very little mention of the fact that only the worst crime gets sentenced, the other two convictions are essentially meaningless.
    They were all meaningless and it's clear, most "white" people dont know what a scam looks like. He'll be out in a few years sipping drinks in the bahamas with his half of the citys treasury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ]2epo]v[an View Post
    They were all meaningless and it's clear, most "white" people dont know what a scam looks like. He'll be out in a few years sipping drinks in the bahamas with his half of the citys treasury.
    12 years is the recommended min, and prosecution has already told the court that they expect a lot more than 12 years to be the result. 40 is the max.

    I say that 30 years is realistic.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Minnesota didn't have the budget to spring for the expenses, probably.
    But there was a spare 45 mil layin around for a payoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Chauvin was guilty as hell, but how could the same homicide be three different crimes?

    Normally, in most states, a conviction will be returned for the most serious charge on which the jury can agree.

    Our federal system is in my opinion absurd. 50 states. 50 different sets of felony statutes.
    I believe they are called lessor included offenses. Basically, the same actions can be multiple crimes. The lessor crimes can be considered in an upward departure, but my guess is the more important aggravating circumstance here is that Chauvin was in uniform when he committed the crime, and that he committed the crime in front of children. He is looking at 12.5 years with no upward departures, but it could go as high as 40 years. There is a slight chance of a downward departure, but even the defense does not think that is possible. He will have to serve two thirds of that before a possible parole, so he will be spending between 8 and 30 years in prison. If I had to bet, I would say 8, but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Why do you think they weren't sequestered?
    The Chauvin Jury was sequestered during the entire deliberation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The Chauvin Jury was sequestered during the entire deliberation.
    They were not prior to that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    But there was a spare 45 mil layin around for a payoff
    What's the price for taking an innocent life?
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I believe they are called lessor included offenses. Basically, the same actions can be multiple crimes. The lessor crimes can be considered in an upward departure, but my guess is the more important aggravating circumstance here is that Chauvin was in uniform when he committed the crime, and that he committed the crime in front of children. He is looking at 12.5 years with no upward departures, but it could go as high as 40 years. There is a slight chance of a downward departure, but even the defense does not think that is possible. He will have to serve two thirds of that before a possible parole, so he will be spending between 8 and 30 years in prison. If I had to bet, I would say 8, but who knows.
    Even eight years in prison is a horrific experience, I'm sure. He's being kept isolated to avoid the publicity of his being killed in prison.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Even eight years in prison is a horrific experience, I'm sure. He's being kept isolated to avoid the publicity of his being killed in prison.
    It is not good, but it could be far worse. He can rebuild his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    What's the price for taking an innocent life?

    What a pity that you cannot comprehend the title of the thread ...

    O well ... it's a common dim disease

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Exactly...but in this case the jury had no choice....they knew what would happen...to the city, the country and more than likely to them and their families, if there was any announcement of "not guilty"....
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

    George Orwell

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