Originally Posted by
cawacko
Just spit balling here but there's two reasons I think we won't see major changes. The first is when crime picks up people become afraid and we pass tougher crime legislation. The other is the tribalism and partisanship, and even you referenced the right and left here as if each 'side' can only see things one way.
I would throw out how many people have heard of Tony Timpa? He was killed by the police in Dallas in 2016 the same as George Floyd. Yet no national media attention, no protests etc. The reason why? He was white. Just my opinion but if we really want reform there needs to be more buy in from people across the political spectrum and with the way its done now we don't get that.
One reason, and that is the police union. They write the rules, and then force the city to accept them. One outfit does so for 80% of the police forces.
"Despite these challenges, the company has marketed its policies as a way to decrease cities’ liability in police misconduct lawsuits. In its communications with potential clients, Lexipol has claimed that agencies that use its policies are sued less frequently and pay out smaller settlements, according to a Texas Law Review analysis of public records. The company’s critics argue that it accomplishes this with vague or permissive rules that meet bare-minimum legal requirements rather than holding officers to a higher standard. “They want to make it impossible, or nearly impossible, for anybody to point to the policy and say it was violated,” says Carl Takei, an ACLU senior staff attorney specializing in police practices. “Defining ‘imminent’ in a way that removes all of the immi*nence? That’s a classic Lexipol policy.” Samuel Sinyangwe, a racial justice activist and data analyst who has looked at hundreds of police departments’ policies, concludes that Lexipol’s use-of-force guidelines usually lack requirements that have been shown to reduce police violence. Lexipol did not respond to a request for comment.
Lexipol was started in 2003; two of its three founders were former cops who became lawyers. One, Bruce Praet, spent a decade as an officer in Orange County, where he twice beat misconduct lawsuits, according to a 1992 Los Angeles Times profile. Inspired by his defense lawyer, Michael Stone—who later represented one of Rodney King’s assailants—Praet went on to become a police union lawyer before starting a firm that specialized in defending cops in cases involving shootings, pursuits, and dog bites. In 1998, he co-wrote the precursor to Lexipol’s first law enforcement manual. From the last three years alone, he has defended police in nearly three dozen federal lawsuits."
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-ju...olicy-company/
Last edited by Old Trapper; 04-20-2021 at 04:06 PM.
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