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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The third most important person in Christianity after Jesus and Paul, Saint Augustine, explicitly maintained that biblical interpretation should always be re-interpreted to conform to the latest accepted scholarly knowledge of the natural world -- and biblical literalism and inerrancy was never a tenet of Christianity until the Luther and Calvin made it a tenet of Protestantism
    I'm not sure that either made it a 'tenet' - rather something that should never be clearly contradicted. A lot of early protestant stuff seems to me allegorical rather than literal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    The Old Testament God, you must admit, had unbelievably less to know about that what the modern Universe(s?) present. Why should there be a 'force' behind the universe?
    Again, you are anthropomorphizing an unknown force by taking the word of semi-literate desert nomads from four thousand years ago about stories that were told around the campfires for a few thousand years.


    You believe the Universe just popped out of nowhere? Fascinating. Do you believe in Magick too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Again, you are anthropomorphizing an unknown force by taking the word of semi-literate desert nomads from four thousand years ago about stories that were told around the campfires for a few thousand years.


    You believe the Universe just popped out of nowhere? Fascinating. Do you believe in Magick too?
    You think someone popped it out of his back pocket? Whose back pocket did he pop out of? Trying to deal with these matters in chimpanzee-type thought is a mug's game, in my view. If we are discussing the universe we need mathematical language, and if we want to decide how to behave, the 'God' notion tends to get in the way of sensible thought nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    unknown force
    You think someone popped it out of his back pocket? Whose back pocket did he pop out of? Trying to deal with these matters in chimpanzee-type thought is a mug's game, in my view.
    No. His? There you go again, anthropomorphizing. Speaking of chimp brains, do you think your dog understands you too?

    The Universe exists. There was a Big Bang. Why the Universe exists or the forces at work are unknown. Hence, "unknown force." Why do you think all forces are male? Daddy issues or just gay? Both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No. His? There you go again, anthropomorphizing. Speaking of chimp brains, do you think your dog understands you too?

    The Universe exists. There was a Big Bang. Why the Universe exists or the forces at work are unknown. Hence, "unknown force." Why do you think all forces are male? Daddy issues or just gay? Both?
    Where are all these forces coming from? I talk about chimpanzee language because that is near to our own species and gives some idea of how far we are from being able to deal with these matters in this selection of historical noises. Call it its back pocket if it makes you happy when talking about fantasised beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Where are all these forces coming from? I talk about chimpanzee language because that is near to our own species and gives some idea of how far we are from being able to deal with these matters in this selection of historical noises. Call it its back pocket if it makes you happy when talking about fantasised beings.
    Unknown. The fact you think you know is fascinating. Does it give you comfort to claim you know it all?

    un·known /ˌənˈnōn/
    not known or familiar.
    "exploration into unknown territory"
    Stripping Americans of their rights, regardless if inalienable or unenumerated, is against American ideals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    I'm not sure that either made it a 'tenet' - rather something that should never be clearly contradicted. A lot of early protestant stuff seems to me allegorical rather than literal.
    The Church of England, aka Anglicans is England's own unique form of Protestantism, and while Anglicans took inspiration from Luther and continental Protestants, they charted their own course to a degree. No question there is substantial variation in Protestantism.


    On another tangent, I recently learned that the Southern delegates to the U.S. constitutional convention were dead set against the USA capital moving to Philadelphia ---- the reason: they hated the Pennsylvania Quakers enthusiasm for slavery abolition and felt being in Philadelphia would give their slave retainers some unwanted inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The Church of England, aka Anglicans is England's own unique form of Protestantism, and while Anglicans took inspiration from Luther and continental Protestants, they charted their own course to a degree. No question there is substantial variation in Protestantism.


    On another tangent, I recently learned that the Southern delegates to the U.S. constitutional convention were dead set against the USA capital moving to Philadelphia ---- the reason: they hated the Pennsylvania Quakers enthusiasm for slavery abolition and felt being in Philadelphia would give their slave retainers some unwanted inspiration.
    Well, I don't live in England, and was brought up in the Church in Wales (same difference, but disestablished, after a long struggle, at the end of the First War). My father had been brought up as a Wesleyan before being ordained and my mother as a Congregationalist, but by that time I think the original beliefs were no longer examined much, so I can only go by bits and bobs of history - my own experience includes only the C in W and the Society of Friends, who are both, I suppose, pretty untypical.

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