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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Has 'ThatOwlWoman' accepted Jesus Christ as her Personal Savior?
    I rank this trolling effort 2 out of 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Earth really IS the center of the universe?
    It was not stupid to believe the Earth was the center of the universe at that time.

    Based on the physics known at that time, it was perfectly reasonable to conclude the Earth was at the center.

    Measurements of optical parallax seemed to indicate Earth was at the center.

    The laws of inertia were not understood then. Without an understanding of inertia, it seemed impossible that the Earth could be spinning around at thousands of miles per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    ^^ Triggered!
    Unable to provide ONE worthwhile Principle that your 'Great Christians' possess.
    (Look, for future use in your Promotion of Christianity: "Jesus is Love, ... and if you don't believe me, I will kill you!". You can't go wrong with this, Cypress. ALWAYS a Winner here at JPP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I rank this trolling effort 2 out of 10
    Owl 'Thanked' you. I figured maybe she would come in and give you some 'back up'. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Slavery is in the Bible, where's the Problem?
    You are anachronistically applying modern morality to people who lived in the late Bronze Age.

    All human cultures 2000 years ago practiced slavery.

    It was English and American Christians who were at the forefront of the slavery abolition movements of the late 18th and 19th centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Thought burning people at the Stake was a cool way to get people to accept your point of view?
    You are having to hop in your time machine to time travel back 600 years to complain about a immoral crimes committed in the 15th century.

    I can list the crimes against humanity the State Atheism of communism committed only 50 to 70 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are having to hop in your time machine to time travel back 600 years to complain about a immoral crimes committed in the 15th century.

    I can list the crimes against humanity the State Atheism of communism committed only 50 to 70 years ago.
    But ... still NOTHING about the 'Great Christians' you are Promoting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    But ... still NOTHING about the 'Great Christians' you are Promoting?
    It is not required to write about why Martin Luther King Jr. and Mother Teresa are admirable. It is self evident.

    If weren't trolling and were actually intellectually curious, I might invest the time to articulate what I find admirable in Martin Luther, Augustine, Boethius, et al.



    State Atheism - worst atheist regimes:

    Soviet Union: murder of hundreds of thousands of priests, deacons, Christian laypersons in the name of State atheism. Widespread oppression and arrests of Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Baptists.

    Khmer Rouge: Murder of tens of thousands of Buddhist monks and laypersons.

    Communist China: Destruction of Buddhist temples, Christian churches, widespread oppression of religious minorities.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...54#post4336554


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is not required to write about why Martin Luther King Jr. and Mother Teresa are admirable. It is self evident.

    If weren't trolling and were actually intellectually curious, I might invest the time to articulate what I find admirable in Martin Luther, Augustine, Boethius, et al.



    State Atheism - worst atheist regimes:

    Soviet Union: murder of hundreds of thousands of priests, deacons, Christian laypersons in the name of State atheism. Widespread oppression and arrests of Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Baptists.

    Khmer Rouge: Murder of tens of thousands of Buddhist monks and laypersons.

    Communist China: Destruction of Buddhist temples, Christian churches, widespread oppression of religious minorities.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...54#post4336554


    Love That! Bu, bu, bu ... Martin Luther King, Jr..

    OK, Cypress. You can't come up with ONE thing that the 'Great Christians' represent that you care to mention. NOT ONE THING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Love That! Bu, bu, bu ... Martin Luther King, Jr..

    OK, Cypress. You can't come up with ONE thing that the 'Great Christians' represent that you care to mention. NOT ONE THING.
    Misrepresenting what I said. I said I would be willing to invest my time writing some of my opinion on Martin Luther, Boethius, Augustine with someone who was intellectually serious and not just trolling.

    Sidebar: next time you want to yuck it up about how stupid Medieval people were for believing in a geocentric universe, I suggest you acquire a working knowlege of the history of science before you let your ego get carried away.

    Medieval scholars were not stupid. They valued reason and logic. Aristotle (the father of logic) and Avicenna were their favorite philosophers.

    But they did not yet understand the laws of inertia - and that combined with the lack of stellar parallax made it seem that a heliocentric universe just would not conform to the laws of physics as they knew them at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I try to do just that in the Democratic Primary.
    In the generals, I'm stuck with the party's nominee, such as it is.

    Do you think that I got a chubby voting for Biden?
    I never had a sexual reaction to any Democratic nominee.

    On balance, Jimmy Carter is the Democratic president I would identify with on a scale of ethics and morality.

    I would identify with Barack Obama as being the most effective and transformational president of my adult life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are anachronistically applying modern morality to people who lived in the late Bronze Age.

    All human cultures 2000 years ago practiced slavery.

    It was English and American Christians who were at the forefront of the slavery abolition movements of the late 18th and 19th centuries.
    Well, British ones perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    Well, British ones perhaps.
    No question Christians in Britain led the charge for slavery abolition - over howls of protests from capitalists.

    In USA Quakers, Unitarians and New England congregationslists were the tip of the spear in America's slavery abolition movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No question Christians in Britain led the charge for slavery abolition - over howls of protests from capitalists.

    In USA Quakers, Unitarians and New England congregationslists were the tip of the spear in America's slavery abolition movement.
    A high proportion of Quakers over there were 'Welsh' - see 'Welsh Tract' in Pennsylvania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    A high proportion of Quakers over there were 'Welsh' - see 'Welsh Tract' in Pennsylvania.
    Good to know.

    The book Uncle Tom's Cabin, at it's core, expressed a Christian indictment of slavery. The Unitarians and the Transcendentalists did heavy lifting for abolition.

    Sadly, while the Southern evangelicals started the early 19th century out with moral objections to slavery, they were enlisted as co-conspirators with the southern plantation owners by mid century. I recently learned that the Haiti slave rebellion spooked southern plantation owners into becoming even more authoritarian and tyrannical over the slave population, because they feared meeting the same fate of the white Haitian plantation owners.

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