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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Trumpism is economic nationalism. Puts American workers ahead of global interests. Puts actual citizens interests ahead of economic migrants interests. Amongst some other things.

    Until someone is formally charged with insurrection—insurrection remains hyperbole. It was a riot and everyone but the fringe right has no problem calling it—what it was.
    Wrong. Trump has no interest in American workers. He wants the top 1 percent to accumulate more money and power. He did that. Corporations want migrants to come and work cheaply without protections. Trump bolstered the most corporate supreme court in history with more anti worker judges. Slashing corporate and wealthy taxes was what he believes in. Trump showed who he was. You missed it.
    The capital riot was sedition. It was also insurrection. The right is trying to downplay it with an incorrect definition. It was the most dangerous day to the American experiment since the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    That is not correct.

    20yo James Alex Fields was found guilty and sentenced to 419 years in prison. Progressive groups raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in remembrance, and the street in Charlottesville where the attack occurred was renamed Heather Heyer Way.
    Strange, cuz that video was pretty damning. His lawyer was himself the guy that posted it on spreely. He was fundraising. He must have rolled over on his client. The post did vanish shortly after i pointed it out. He acted as tho he hadnt even watched it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The capital riot was sedition. It was also insurrection. The right is trying to downplay it with an incorrect definition.
    Wrong again, in america, the government is the property of and serves the people and it was the people's will that the election fraud charges be fully investigated. The only act of sedition was continuing to deny the people their valid concerns

    Now im no cryptography expert but...



    Biden made it impossible for anyone to respect this election his own self.

    More on this later. Need to charge phone.

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    these people have been here long B4 dump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And hours later they came back and finished their business.

    There’s been only one instance in the modern era where congressmen had to flee from an active weapon and the active weapon was in the hands of a Bernie supporter. It could have easily ended in a mass political assassination but was stopped by a Capitol Cop.

    1/6 was a riot.
    Calling it merely "a riot" masks rather than explains it. How did it happen that the "rioters", coming from different parts of the country, all assembled at the same place at the same time, then marched together to the scene of the "riot". Call it a riot if you wish, but a riot in the form of an insurrection - the use of force against the national government in pursuit a contrary national purpose.

    That the whole thing was absurd and doomed to fail only means the insurrection was a criminally bad mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Wrong. Trump has no interest in American workers. He wants the top 1 percent to accumulate more money and power. He did that. Corporations want migrants to come and work cheaply without protections. Trump bolstered the most corporate supreme court in history with more anti worker judges. Slashing corporate and wealthy taxes was what he believes in. Trump showed who he was. You missed it.
    The capital riot was sedition. It was also insurrection. The right is trying to downplay it with an incorrect definition. It was the most dangerous day to the American experiment since the Civil War.
    Bullshit on steroids.

    The Sicknick narrative has cratered and turned out to be a blood libel against Trump supporters.

    It was a riot that led to one [1] homicide and the victim was an Air Force veteran that did two tours in Iraq. She survived Iraq only to be shot down while climbing through a window.
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    The fbi absolved itself of any responsibility to resoect the fourth amendment a long time ago. Since then, they instead start extremist groups rather than go undercover to investigate them. Qeer annon, proud boys, etc.

    https://www.colorlines.com/articles/...ent-fbi-stings

    The fbi has since skipped plain old entrapment and gone full throttle subversive. They now go out and commit crimes themselves to blame other people for making them do it....

    I shit you not.

    You have to understand, theres only a few scenarios where it gets this big and this disgusting and all of them are just before the fall of rome.

    So, im going to tell you were the federal fallout shelters are. Under kansas. Under arizona. And under al gores house in his mine shaft out back.

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    Hello ']2epo]v[an,

    Quote Originally Posted by ]2epo]v[an View Post
    Wrong again, in america, the government is the property of and serves the people and it was the people's will that the election fraud charges be fully investigated. The only act of sedition was continuing to deny the people their valid concerns
    It was not the people's will. It was the will of SOME of the people. Not a majority. The 2020 election was the most secure election in our history.

    Election fraud charges were all investigated and resolved. There are no remaining legal challenges to the 2020 election. None of the challenges changed one single vote. Most secure election ever in American history.

    Everybody knew the election would be contested because Trump kept claiming it was going to be rigged long before the election. He very irresponsibly destroyed trust in the system, with no proof, with no basis. It was all just stuff he made up, embellished, got wrong. It was part of how he incited the now infamous Jan 6th insurrection.

    All of the legal challenges to the validity of the various elections were heard in court and all dismissed as having no merit except one, which amounted to no change in the results at all. Not one vote was changed as a result of any of the over 60 legal challenges filed in the 2020 election.

    Quote Originally Posted by ]2epo]v[an View Post
    Now im no cryptography expert but...



    Biden made it impossible for anyone to respect this election his own self.
    That is totally cherry-picked. It is a part of a longer quote that was snipped and taken out of context. Biden was addressing the threat of voter fraud leading up to the election and explaining an organization which was set up to address concerns over possible voter fraud, mainly the type that might prevent people from voting or having their votes counted. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene got flagged on Twitter for posting misleading information when she circulated that edited clip.

    Washington Post

    Marjorie Taylor Green is not a reliable person to listen to for any information. She has a reputation for repeating completely unsupported conspiracy theories with no basis in fact, which have often turned out to be false.

    President Biden is a good man who is giving his all in service to our country. That is a lousy job and very few will even agree to give that much of themselves to do that job. We are lucky to have Joe Biden as our president. He's doing a good job.

    You are entitled to disagree. You are entitled to your own view.

    I try to make sure my views are validated and supported by actual events and verified news. The credible main stream media is a good place to rely upon. If something is picked up by several main stream sources, it is mostly likely true. When they get something wrong, they generally do a retraction. This is how they maintain higher credibility than oddball small sites with no professional team nor organization. The MSM correctly reported that the election was secure, fair, and that Biden won fair and square. And you can believe that.

    President Trump is a sore loser. His oversized ego will not let him lose at anything. He can't accept loss. This is a character flaw which leads him into fantasy. He lost. Because he won't accept that, he has a following of people who refuse to admit the fact that he lost. It is sad that this has divided our country in this way. He should never have done that. President Trump has hurt our country by doing that. He should retract his statements and make a complete public reversal and apologize to the nation, and also thank all of his supporters, but make it clear that Joe Biden is the legal president now, and all Americans should give him their initial support and a fair chance to prove himself. All Americans should support the president in matters of safety and national security, regardless of party.

    That would include the pandemic. We are at war with a bug. We can win this war if we listen to our wise leader and do as he directs. If we all go different directions and have our own ideas about it, or just wanna blow it off, the pandemic will last longer. It will then take longer before we really get our lives back. Biden is a good man. We need to listen to him.
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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Bullshit on steroids.

    The Sicknick narrative has cratered and turned out to be a blood libel against Trump supporters.

    It was a riot that led to one [1] homicide and the victim was an Air Force veteran that did two tours in Iraq. She survived Iraq only to be shot down while climbing through a window.
    It was a good shooting. There should have been a lot more shooting of the criminals who attacked the capitol that day. They were breaking the law and attacking the United States of America. That would have been the only way for that small a force of police to defend the capitol from that size of attack. She died because she was violently attacking the US Congress and in the process of an illegal break-in.

    Had the capitol police used more force it would have cost more lives of the attackers, but the capitol would have been better defended. Several of the police felt so bad about their poor performance that day, they later committed suicide.

    It was sad that someone who once served our country decided to turn on it and attack the very government she served, but that was her decision. She knew she was attacking the federal government, and she knew it was defended by people with guns. Had she simply stayed home that day and not participated in the capitol attack, she would still be alive.

    The election was challenged and the challenges failed. January 6th was too late to be making demands about the election. The election was over after the electoral college votes were counted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    It was a good shooting. There should have been a lot more shooting of the criminals who attacked the capitol that day. That would have been the only way for that small a force of police to defend the capitol from that attack. She died because she was violently attacking the US Congress and in the process of an illegal break-in.

    Had the capitol police used more force it would have cost more lives of the attackers, but the capitol would have been better defended. Several of the police felt so bad about their performance they later committed suicide.
    They shot an unarmed Air Force veteran climbing through a window. It’s what they did.
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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    They shot an unarmed Air Force veteran climbing through a window. It’s what they did.
    And rightly so. She was committing a felony act.
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    'The will of the people' is that we follow our Constitution and trust our institutions to run and oversee our elections, and resolve any disputes. Those institutions, including our state election officials, our intelligence officials, DHS, the FBI, our state courts, our Federal Courts, and the US Supreme Court all agree. There was no large scale election fraud. The election was free and fair. Joe Biden won the election. There is ZERO disagreement among our institutions. If you wish to undo the results of an election held within the framework of our laws and those institutions, then you are an insurrectionist. Period, end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    They shot an unarmed Air Force veteran climbing through a window. It’s what they did.
    Problem? Was she or was she not an insurrectionist trumpanzee?

    Is being capped suddenly not a highly probable result of participating in a seditious insurrection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    And rightly so. She was committing a felony act.
    He forgot to mention that the 'window' led to the chamber of the United States Senate. And she was going to enter that chamber with criminal intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Darth,



    And rightly so. She was committing a felony act.
    So going forward, it’s ok to shoot unarmed people committing felonies not in the leg or arm—but through the neck with the intent to kill on the first shot?
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