By far the biggest threat to the 2nd is right wingers with the NRA leading the pack.

[jbander]

I'm a big supporter of the second amendment but if that amendment is defined by this hate group they call a party or the NRA, we would be a lot better off not having the second Amendment. There is no way in hell that the NRA and Gun Bubbas perception and opinion of the second was even close to why our forefathers put in the 2nd in the constitution. In fact if they knew how it would be misinterpreted by these brain dead, they would apose the 2nd themselves.

[BidenPresident]

I'm a big supporter of the second amendment but if that amendment is defined by this hate group they call a party or the NRA, we would be a lot better off not having the second Amendment. There is no way in hell that the NRA and Gun Bubbas perception and opinion of the second was even close to why our forefathers put in the 2nd in the constitution. In fact if they knew how it would be misinterpreted by these brain dead, they would apose the 2nd themselves.

The 2nd amendment is deeply flawed and our nation would be better without it.

[Into the Night]

The 2nd amendment is deeply flawed and our nation would be better without it.

Since the rights discussed in the 2nd amendment are inherent, you cannot just ignore it. You simply do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor the constitution of any State.

[Minister of Truth]

The 2nd amendment is deeply flawed and our nation would be better without it.

It would also fare better without you. I hear Europe still exists.

[BidenPresident]

I am a worthless hate troll.

Fuck you.

[T. A. Gardner]

The 2nd amendment is deeply flawed and our nation would be better without it.

Why? There are many nations that have very strict gun control yet experience massive crime, social unrest, and even gun violence. Look at Mexico. Mexico gun laws are very restrictive and it is very difficult for a citizen to legally own a firearm, particularly a pistol. Yet, Mexico is overrun with gun violence and criminal activity. So, how would the US benefit from not having a 2nd Amendment?

[BidenPresident]

Why? There are many nations that have very strict gun control yet experience massive crime, social unMerest, and even gun violence. Look at Mexico. Mexico gun laws are very restrictive and it is very difficult for a citizen to legally own a firearm, particularly a pistol. Yet, Mexico is overrun with gun violence and criminal activity. So, how would the US benefit from not having a 2nd Amendment?

Mexico is a failed state. Corrupt. Nothing like the US.

[T. A. Gardner]

Mexico is a failed state. Corrupt. Nothing like the US.

Maybe without the 2nd Amendment we'd be like Mexico...

[BidenPresident]

Maybe without the 2nd Amendment we'd be like Mexico...

The drug gangs have lots of weapon. Like I said, Mexico has nothing in common with the US.

[Into the Night]

I'm a big supporter of the second amendment but if that amendment is defined by this hate group they call a party or the NRA, we would be a lot better off not having the second Amendment. There is no way in hell that the NRA and Gun Bubbas perception and opinion of the second was even close to why our forefathers put in the 2nd in the constitution. In fact if they knew how it would be misinterpreted by these brain dead, they would apose the 2nd themselves.

The NRA is not a hate group. NRA is not 'gun bubbas'. Bigotry. The NRA does not define or redefine the 2nd amendment.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This amendment discusses two inherent rights, both related, not one.

1) The right of a State to defend itself...as a State. It does this by raising militias (or armies) made up of the people of that State.
2) The right of the individual to defend himself and his interests. This is the right of the people.

The 2nd amendment does not specify type of weapon, type of action, magazine, size, length of barrel, type or color of stock, size of ammunition, method of construction, length of blade, etc. It means ANY weapon.

[archives]

The NRA is not a hate group. NRA is not 'gun bubbas'. Bigotry. The NRA does not define or redefine the 2nd amendment.



This amendment discusses two inherent rights, both related, not one.

1) The right of a State to defend itself...as a State. It does this by raising militias (or armies) made up of the people of that State.
2) The right of the individual to defend himself and his interests. This is the right of the people.

The 2nd amendment does not specify type of weapon, type of action, magazine, size, length of barrel, type or color of stock, size of ammunition, method of construction, length of blade, etc. It means ANY weapon.

Wrong, the NRA is always “defining and redefining” the Second Amendment, review their literature, they offer NRA interpretations of everything

Wrong again, your interpretation of “militia” is your interpretation of “militia,” also the interpretation of the NRA, remember those guys you said don’t define the Second Amendment. Fact, no Supreme Court in the history of the country has been able to define what the Founders meant by “militia,” even the Roberts Court, who in the Heller case simply skipped over it per Scalia’s influence

And please, don’t return with your “natural rights” BS in return

[Into the Night]

Wrong, the NRA is always “defining and redefining” the Second Amendment,

Nope. They never have.

review their literature, they offer NRA interpretations of everything

Void argument fallacy. Provide an example.

Wrong again, your interpretation of “militia” is your interpretation of “militia,”

Nope. A militia is an army raised from the citizens of a State.
The federal militia is called the National Guard. Each State can also have a militia to defend that State. Washington, for example, has a current membership of 75 people in its militia (since it's not in active status).

also the interpretation of the NRA,

The NRA doesn't redefine 'militia'. They hardly even mention them, since they are about the right of the individual, not the State.

remember those guys you said don’t define the Second Amendment.

They don't.

Fact, no Supreme Court in the history of the country has been able to define what the Founders meant by “militia,”

The Supreme Court has no authority to interpret or change the Constitution of the United States. See Article III of the Constitution of the United States.

even the Roberts Court, who in the Heller case simply skipped over it per Scalia’s influence

Irrelevant. The Supreme Court has no authority to interpret or change the Constitution of the United States.

And please, don’t return with your “natural rights” BS in return

I certainly will. The right of self defense is inherent. It does not come from a piece of paper or any court.

[jbander]

Wrong, the NRA is always “defining and redefining” the Second Amendment, review their literature, they offer NRA interpretations of everything

Wrong again, your interpretation of “militia” is your interpretation of “militia,” also the interpretation of the NRA, remember those guys you said don’t define the Second Amendment. Fact, no Supreme Court in the history of the country has been able to define what the Founders meant by “militia,” even the Roberts Court, who in the Heller case simply skipped over it per Scalia’s influence

And please, don’t return with your “natural rights” BS in return

The problem is the group of traitors that are buying all the guns. We just watched them at their best trying to destroy this country and democracy.

[RB 60]

Wrong, the NRA is always “defining and redefining” the Second Amendment, review their literature, they offer NRA interpretations of everything

Wrong again, your interpretation of “militia” is your interpretation of “militia,” also the interpretation of the NRA, remember those guys you said don’t define the Second Amendment. Fact, no Supreme Court in the history of the country has been able to define what the Founders meant by “militia,” even the Roberts Court, who in the Heller case simply skipped over it per Scalia’s influence

And please, don’t return with your “natural rights” BS in return

And you're a member and can say this? Otherwise, it's nothing more than ignorant speculation. Nothing new for you...

[Minister of Truth]

I'm a big supporter of the second amendment but if that amendment is defined by this hate group they call a party or the NRA, we would be a lot better off not having the second Amendment. There is no way in hell that the NRA and Gun Bubbas perception and opinion of the second was even close to why our forefathers put in the 2nd in the constitution. In fact if they knew how it would be misinterpreted by these brain dead, they would apose the 2nd themselves.

Such a big defender, I should add, that this fellow would eliminate the 2nd in order to save it.