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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    No true conservative says the right to carry a fire arm is ABSOLUTE there are circumstances that dictate otherwise. The same is true of the 1st amendment and free speech, It is illegal to yell fire in a crowed theater as an example, or threatening the life of the president.
    I agree with you about the limitations, but I have had that very argument about the fire in the theater with Trumppers here on this forum. Glad to see you agree that the Right to Bear Arms can be infringed depending on circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Good morning. How are you enjoying your new couch?
    It's great. We named it "Joe." lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo/Penderyn View Post
    We have special armed police on call. They can get to most places in a few minutes, and are excellent at first-aid. Otherwise, no guns for cops. Ours kill three a year to your thousand. Read, think, learn and inwardly digest, trumpers.
    Out civilians have guns, and that can't be changed by statute--only by constitutional amendment which is virtually impossible.
    Your comments make perfect sense but are inapplicable here.

    I've walked around London at night, and to be honest, knowing that neither I nor the police had guns wasn't very comfortable for an American.
    It might be hard for a non-American to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It's great. We named it "Joe." lol

    Our new little baby arrived this morning! 6 lb 15 oz and as perfect as they come.
    Congrats grandma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Congrats grandma.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Anybody who's been around long enough to compare knows that compared to the tough old timers, modern cops are pussies.

    The cops that I dealt with as a kid would be truly ashamed.
    They didn't draw their sidearms unless it was specifically to shoot you, which almost never happened.
    They didn't draw their sidearms because they were afraid of getting their asses kicked like the cops today.

    It's gotten unbelievable, now.
    How did that twig Chauvin ever become a cop?
    My daughter, about his age, would kiss his ass sideways without breaking a sweat.



    you were never tough, old or young, you avoided the draft and didn't serve. you call for genocide of 74 million americans but admit you are too much a pussy to do any heavy lifting yourself.



    your daughter would kiss his ass? you sure you meant it that way? lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Out civilians have guns, and that can't be changed by statute--only by constitutional amendment which is virtually impossible.
    Your comments make perfect sense but are inapplicable here.

    I've walked around London at night, and to be honest, knowing that neither I nor the police had guns wasn't very comfortable for an American.
    It might be hard for a non-American to understand.





    seems like you are a timid soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If they ask you to do it, that is different than demanding that you do it.

    You are the one who claims the right to bear arms is ABSOLUTE. It appears, now you are saying that neither the right to free speech or the right to bear arms are ABSOLUTE... Strange.
    When did I ever say that?

    A compelling public interest is the accepted standard.

    Wasn't that in law school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    No true conservative says the right to carry a fire arm is ABSOLUTE there are circumstances that dictate otherwise. The same is true of the 1st amendment and free speech, It is illegal to yell fire in a crowed theater as an example, or threatening the life of the president.
    https://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/t...ip-are-enough/
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    When did I ever say that?

    A compelling public interest is the accepted standard.

    Wasn't that in law school?
    I agree that a compelling public interest is the standard. Very happy you agree the right is infringable and not absolute. We are making progress.
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    What other cons agree w Taft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    What other cons agree w Taft?
    They all do. Otherwise an inmate inside prison would be allowed to carry if the right was absolute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    They all do. Otherwise an inmate inside prison would be allowed to carry if the right was absolute.
    So now the issue is... where do we draw the line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So when the government agent demands you DROP THE GUN, is that Constitutional?

    How do you feel about them killing someone if they refuse?
    Smart post.
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