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    GOP flails post-Trump while Biden’s popularity soars | Sat, Apr 17

    America has shifted from an unusually unpopular and polarizing president to one who is supported and even uniting voters from both parties on key plans, posing a challenge for the Republican party. MSNBC’s Ari Melber discusses how the GOP is not even pretending to offer a new, counter agenda to the Biden Administration’s and what this means for the party.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    GOP flails post-Trump while Biden’s popularity soars | Sat, Apr 17

    America has shifted from an unusually unpopular and polarizing president to one who is supported and even uniting voters from both parties on key plans, posing a challenge for the Republican party. MSNBC’s Ari Melber discusses how the GOP is not even pretending to offer a new, counter agenda to the Biden Administration’s and what this means for the party.
    Excellent.

    I've noticed that both our current (R) congressjerk and the prior one in Missouri are desperately flailing themselves. Both of their districts are solidly red, the Missouri one due to extreme gerrymandering. Prior to the last election, neither one used their official FB page for much more than an occasional press release trumpeting some trivial thing that they'd done "for the people."

    Now? Both of them are posting daily, sometimes more than once per day. It's the usual bullshit -- commie socialist (D)s giving away the store, THE CRISIS AT THE BORDER, and other pleas for attention. The negative comments from constituents are a majority; their supporters aren't saying much. It's 18 months till the mid-terms but the concern is palpable.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    MSNBC’s Ari Melber .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Excellent.

    I've noticed that both our current (R) congressjerk and the prior one in Missouri are desperately flailing themselves. Both of their districts are solidly red, the Missouri one due to extreme gerrymandering. Prior to the last election, neither one used their official FB page for much more than an occasional press release trumpeting some trivial thing that they'd done "for the people."

    Now? Both of them are posting daily, sometimes more than once per day. It's the usual bullshit -- commie socialist (D)s giving away the store, THE CRISIS AT THE BORDER, and other pleas for attention. The negative comments from constituents are a majority; their supporters aren't saying much. It's 18 months till the mid-terms but the concern is palpable.
    It is funny how Deplorables want to call Joe Biden an unreconstructed Marxist-Lenist, but they absolutely hate it when one points to the wealthy social welfare states of Scandinavia examples of democratic socialism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is funny how Deplorables want to call Joe Biden an unreconstructed Marxist-Lenist, but they absolutely hate it when one points to the wealthy social welfare states of Scandinavia examples of democratic socialism.

    I'm not sure if Norway or Sweden are good examples because their populations are mostly homogenous whereas the US is mostly heterogenous.
    Also, the population of Norway is about five million. US is 330 million. Welfare programs become more expensive and less efficient as the population increases.
    But the radical right wing are still idiots.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
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    And your point is..........................................?
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    yes, the America people prefer an actual president as opposed to a Manhattan con man who told over 30,000 lies in his single term while being impeached twice

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    Joe's ratings at this point in his first term are higher than any other pres since me

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Joe's ratings at this point in his first term are higher than any other pres since me
    Trump set the bar so low, he made President Biden look like Abraham Lincoln.
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    I'm not sure if Norway or Sweden are good examples because their populations are mostly homogenous whereas the US is mostly heterogenous.
    Also, the population of Norway is about five million. US is 330 million. Welfare programs become more expensive and less efficient as the population increases.
    But the radical right wing are still idiots.
    That does not make sense to me. France and Germany are social welfare states and have large populations. Larger populations obviously have larger tax and revenue bases.

    I have no idea why variations in ethnicity, skin color, or creed would have any effect on the efficacy of a universal healthcare policy, or taxpayer subsidized child day care.

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    It was not for tRump as lawlessly hacked in swine heart and POS who conspired among his un America sewer GOPer creatures and foreign enemies to destroy the legitimacy of the 2016 election and a violation of U.S. Constitutional law in the devil's favor to defend and support U.S. Constitutional law, Democracy. This includes anything else of a civilized nature on Earth to which tRump and his sewer mob have no relationship with in terms of the common decency of civilization. Yet the tRump culture of rot is and was a deplorable element of the on the down low sewer of uncivilized and subhuman type atrocities of trash, which also violates the intent of humanity and its decency by the will of God moving forward into the 21st century and beyond in a productive and civilized manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaming Capitalist View Post
    I'm not sure if Norway or Sweden are good examples because their populations are mostly homogenous whereas the US is mostly heterogenous.
    Also, the population of Norway is about five million. US is 330 million. Welfare programs become more expensive and less efficient as the population increases.
    But the radical right wing are still idiots.
    The Nordic Countries has about the same or larger immigration than the USA does these days. They offer welfare benefits to immigrants, while the USA does not even offer most welfare benefits to US citizens. Nordic countries are bigger than most US states that run programs.

    Denmark is an interesting example [short version, they spend a lot of money to avoid wasting money]:
    The case for Danish welfare
    Can a welfare state be both generous and efficient?


    Give this article
    Apaper published by three economists in early 2015 came to a hard-nosed conclusion. It looked at what had caused a surge in employment in America over the previous year. The jobs boom coincided with a cold-hearted Republican reform to make unemployment benefits less generous. The authors demonstrated, convincingly, that the one had caused the other, with the benefit cut leading to the creation of 1.8m extra jobs in 2014—about two-thirds of the total.

    The notion that lavish welfare benefits discourage work, so that cutting them makes people look harder for a job, is widely accepted not just by economists but by most politicians and voters. Nobody nowadays wins election by promising to lavish the unemployed with public funds. So it is surprising to find that the country with the world’s most generous offer to the out-of-work also has one of its best-functioning labour markets.

    Danish benefits are worth more than 80% of previous earnings after six months out of work, compared with 60% across the rich world and less than 50% in Britain (America is even stingier). For Danish parents who lose their jobs, replacement rates can approach 100%.



    The generosity of Denmark’s unemployment system is the flipside of its liberal regulation of employment contracts—a combination called “flexicurity”. Danish employers can hire and fire workers pretty much as they please. Jobs therefore come and go, but people’s incomes are stable. Yet the state’s munificence has not produced a class of feckless drifters. Denmark’s unemployment rate is lower than the rich-world average and its working-age employment rate is higher. Long-term unemployment is low. When Danish people lose a job, they find a new one faster than almost anyone else in the world, according to the oecd.

    That is because Denmark makes it hard for people to live off welfare. Recipients must submit a cv to a coach within two weeks of becoming unemployed. They can be struck off for not trying hard enough to search for work or to keep up with adult-education programmes. As a share of gdp Denmark spends four times as much as the average oecd country, and more than any single one, on “active labour-market policies” to make people more employable.

    This offers a tough lesson for those arguing for more generous welfare states. Simply boosting benefits may dissuade employment, as it did in America before 2014. To stop this happening requires massive investment in training, monitoring and enforcement of the rules for those out of work—spending money to avoid wasting it, in other words. The world’s best welfare system does not come cheap.

    https://www.economist.com/special-re...danish-welfare

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