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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Communities shouldn't depend on traffic stops for revenue but they do.

    The founders did not give the national government nearly enough control over states and local governments.
    We have many red states in particular that are hard pressed to find people who could run a yard sale, much less a government.

    If we're not going to partition, we're just going to have to let Massachusetts, New York, and California run everything.
    They seem to have a monopoly on the capable people.

    If traffic duties are left to officers who have ONLY the authority to issue traffic citations, somebody with a quarter million dollars worth of coke in the trunk is less likely to shoot the cop,
    and the cop is less likely to shoot the driver out of fear of being shot himself.

    Here's the problem.
    Most traffic stops may require only citations,
    but some involve arrests for more serious offenses.

    That's why they have fully authorized cops do it.
    The founders did not give the national government nearly enough control over states and local governments.


    And because you are an uninformed dimwit and/or alien ideologue, you should be made to reveal just how evil and/or uninformed you are.

    Tell us, in your opinion, why didn't the founders give the national government enough control over states and local governments to suit YOU??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummie123 View Post
    You give off the impression that you watch so many fantasy cartoons, and play so many goddam video games which trick you into thinking unreality is real, that you've lost your motherfucking mind.

    No wonder you are so easily seduced by those who are preying on America.

    You are what's called a, "Low-Hanging Fruit."


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    Seriously, you're too weird for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    Get police out of the business of traffic stops

    wow ... now the highways will become survival of the fittest ... this is a typical stupid dim idea.

    Hope you NEVER get hit by a drunk driver, speeder or any other horrible driver
    I'm not that worried. I've driven in lots of countries with virtually no traffic laws!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I'm not that worried. I've driven in lots of countries with virtually no traffic laws!
    Where is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Communities shouldn't depend on traffic stops for revenue and they rarely do.
    There, fixed it for you. The number one generator of revenue from traffic tickets based on the classic "speed trap" is using cameras. Democrats and Progressives love traffic cameras for ticketing people.

    The founders did not give the national government nearly enough control over states and local governments.
    They knew better than to let idiots have such power. But now in the US the idiots are finally getting some of that.

    We have many red states in particular that are hard pressed to find people who could run a yard sale, much less a government.

    If we're not going to partition, we're just going to have to let Massachusetts, New York, and California run everything.
    They seem to have a monopoly on the capable people.
    Is that why those states are hemorrhaging population and businesses? Is that why they are so deep in debt? There's a reason people are fleeing blue states...

    If traffic duties are left to officers who have ONLY the authority to issue traffic citations, somebody with a quarter million dollars worth of coke in the trunk is less likely to shoot the cop,
    and the cop is less likely to shoot the driver out of fear of being shot himself.
    On the other hand, letting criminals who have or will commit more crimes--often serious ones--have nothing to fear now so they can break traffic laws with impunity.

    Here's the problem.
    Most traffic stops may require only citations,
    but some involve arrests for more serious offenses.

    That's why they have fully authorized cops do it.
    And that's why fully deputized police do these stops. They are deliberately looking for criminals when they do one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Where is that?
    Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Mexico...

    In the Middle East they have lots of traffic circles like Europe, but the direction of travel is optional, particularly in Saudi. Saudi's are some of the worst drivers I've ever seen anywhere...

    While I didn't see this level of crazy...



    That's pretty crazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummie123 View Post
    The founders did not give the national government nearly enough control over states and local governments.


    And because you are an uninformed dimwit and/or alien ideologue, you should be made to reveal just how evil and/or uninformed you are.

    Tell us, in your opinion, why didn't the founders give the national government enough control over states and local governments to suit YOU??

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    Note that Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism and the Democrat Party are all about 100% Central government control of America.
    Geez, dude. Get a fucking grip before you explode at a Fedex facility.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    There, fixed it for you. The number one generator of revenue from traffic tickets based on the classic "speed trap" is using cameras. Democrats and Progressives love traffic cameras for ticketing people.



    They knew better than to let idiots have such power. But now in the US the idiots are finally getting some of that.



    Is that why those states are hemorrhaging population and businesses? Is that why they are so deep in debt? There's a reason people are fleeing blue states...



    On the other hand, letting criminals who have or will commit more crimes--often serious ones--have nothing to fear now so they can break traffic laws with impunity.



    And that's why fully deputized police do these stops. They are deliberately looking for criminals when they do one.
    Parsing my post?
    Welcome to the ignore list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Parsing my post?
    Welcome to the ignore list.
    Too bad that won't change his behavior

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    There, fixed it for you. The number one generator of revenue from traffic tickets based on the classic "speed trap" is using cameras. Democrats and Progressives love traffic cameras for ticketing people.

    They knew better than to let idiots have such power. But now in the US the idiots are finally getting some of that.

    Is that why those states are hemorrhaging population and businesses? Is that why they are so deep in debt? There's a reason people are fleeing blue states...

    On the other hand, letting criminals who have or will commit more crimes--often serious ones--have nothing to fear now so they can break traffic laws with impunity.

    And that's why fully deputized police do these stops. They are deliberately looking for criminals when they do one.
    Parsing my post?
    Welcome to the ignore list.
    Only a very petty puppy would become upset about such things. Most likely it's because you are just running from Gardner's points.

    Liberal idiots think unarmed "traffic only" police would simply be meter maids but that's a pipe dream not to mention fucking stupid.

    Like most things liberals don't like, the solution to this problem is simply enforcement of present laws.

    While there's a lot to be said for independent "laboratories of democracy" there's also a lot to be said about "reinventing the wheel". States, with Feds acting as coordinators, should organize themselves to save costs on training, equipment and oversight.

    Politalker mentioned about bad officers rotating through departments like pedophile priests. That can be stopped with a national database and mutual agreements between the states. It is in the best interests of every city, county and state to avoid shooting unarmed citizens.

    Fix the system where it's broken. Don't reinvent the wheel.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Parsing my post?
    Welcome to the ignore list.
    Awww.... How usual for a Progressive to get bent out of shape when confronted with facts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Too bad that won't change his behavior
    What behavior is that? Questioning stupidity to bring it into the light of day? Using facts and logic that confounds the Leftists here?

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    True yesterday & true today:

    More traffic stops, fewer murders.

    Fewer traffic stops, more murders.

    Why do DemoKKKrats support more murders?

    Could it be because they're psychopath Brownshirts, or morons, or both?
    DemoKKKrats: The dangerous fascist psychopaths Orwell warned us about.

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    Nifty lives in a fantasy America. There is no need to partition. That idea comes from the mistaken notion that every state is either "red or blue." That simply is not true, and people would never leave their homes to fulfill his dream.

    Things have changed while escaping his notice.

    Speaking of cameras, a couple of years ago, I got a $135 ticket, by mail, for doing 31 miles per hour in a 30 m.p.h. zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You are a troll.
    That’s why I have him on ignore. Rather than you give him oxygen, I’d recommend the same.

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